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Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-04 by jimrohan2002

Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag at this time.
I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at Shades of Paper
which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my 9600 in place of 
the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with this combination,
or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
Thanks in advance,

Jim Rohan

Re: Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-04 by john dean

They are very, very similar. You are not going to have trouble with
the Smooth Cotton and any curve designed for monochrome,even the color
profiles are quite close. I know Roy has curves for QTR for both
papers for my K6 inkset, don't know about UT inks. You should be fine
though. 

John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jimrohan2002"
<jimrohan@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo
Rag at this time.
> I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
Shades of Paper
> which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on
my 9600 in place of 
> the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience
with this combination,
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> or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Jim Rohan
>

RE: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-04 by Paul Roark

Jim,

I'm not sure what UT inkset you're using, but if there are any Permajet
curves posted, those should work.  Permajet uses Innova coating.  The Smooth
Cotton is probably the same as PJ Omega.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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> Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> 
> Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag at
> this time.
> I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
> Shades of Paper
> which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my
> 9600 in place of
> the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with
> this combination,
> or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Jim Rohan
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-05 by Jim Doyle

Paul

 

Thanks a lot for the heads up Much appreciated..

 

Johhnny & Jimbo Thanks for the Kind Compliments..

 

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Jim,

I'm not sure what UT inkset you're using, but if there are any Permajet
curves posted, those should work.  Permajet uses Innova coating.  The Smooth
Cotton is probably the same as PJ Omega.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


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> Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> 
> Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag at
> this time.
> I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
> Shades of Paper
> which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my
> 9600 in place of
> the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with
> this combination,
> or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Jim Rohan
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-05 by jimrohan2002

I am using the UT7 inkset on my 9600. Where would I find any Permajet curves that might 
be posted?
Thanks.

Jim R


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wrote:
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>
> Jim,
> 
> I'm not sure what UT inkset you're using, but if there are any Permajet
> curves posted, those should work.  Permajet uses Innova coating.  The Smooth
> Cotton is probably the same as PJ Omega.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > jimrohan2002
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:30 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> > 
> > Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> > There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag at
> > this time.
> > I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
> > Shades of Paper
> > which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my
> > 9600 in place of
> > the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with
> > this combination,
> > or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Jim Rohan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > they are often being updated.
> > 
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RE: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-05 by Paul Roark

Jim,

> I am using the UT7 inkset on my 9600. Where would I find any Permajet
> curves that might be posted?

My 7600 UT-7 Readme file with the settings is at
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT7-7600-Readme.htm

The 9600 should use these settings.

The curves download page is at
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT7-7600-curves.html

Again, the 9600 should work fine with these.

(By the way, if the flat spots are removed from the curves they can be
embedded into an ICC with Roy's "Create ICC."  This allows the system to be
linearized, "color managed" in terms of matching the monitor to the g/s
ramp, and print from grayscale files.  This is what I'm doing from now on.)

Hope this helps.

Paul
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> wrote:
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > I'm not sure what UT inkset you're using, but if there are any Permajet
> > curves posted, those should work.  Permajet uses Innova coating.  The
> Smooth
> > Cotton is probably the same as PJ Omega.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > jimrohan2002
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:30 PM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> > >
> > > Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> > > There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> at
> > > this time.
> > > I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
> > > Shades of Paper
> > > which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my
> > > 9600 in place of
> > > the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with
> > > this combination,
> > > or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jim Rohan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> resources as
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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag

2006-04-05 by jimrohan2002

Thanks Paul for all your help. Have learned a lot from yor past posts.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> My 7600 UT-7 Readme file with the settings is at
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT7-7600-Readme.htm
> 
> The 9600 should use these settings.
> 
> The curves download page is at
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT7-7600-curves.html
> 
> Again, the 9600 should work fine with these.
> 
> (By the way, if the flat spots are removed from the curves they can be
> embedded into an ICC with Roy's "Create ICC."  This allows the system to be
> linearized, "color managed" in terms of matching the monitor to the g/s
> ramp, and print from grayscale files.  This is what I'm doing from now on.)
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Jim,
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what UT inkset you're using, but if there are any Permajet
> > > curves posted, those should work.  Permajet uses Innova coating.  The
> > Smooth
> > > Cotton is probably the same as PJ Omega.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > jimrohan2002
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:30 PM
> > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Smooth Cotton and Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I am a new poster to this group and here is my dilemna.
> > > > There seems to be a shortage (read: none) of 44' Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
> > at
> > > > this time.
> > > > I just ordered some Innova Smooth Cotton from our buddy Jim Doyle at
> > > > Shades of Paper
> > > > which I am hoping I can use with MIS Ultratone inks I am running on my
> > > > 9600 in place of
> > > > the HPR with (Paul Roark's) curves. Has anyone had any experience with
> > > > this combination,
> > > > or do specific curves exist for this paper (Paul?)
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Jim Rohan
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