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2006-05-14 by None
I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? Thank you. Scott
2006-05-14 by Paul Roark
Use a curve for a glossy paper, like one of the Premium Semigloss curves. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of None > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:10 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > Thank you. > > Scott > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
2006-05-15 by Scott Hendershot
Paul, Thank you for the suggestion on the curves. I'm trying to understand what inkset this paper requires. Most people talk about using it with Epson inks. Does it require using the UT2 Photo black? Or will Eboni work just fine? Thank you again. Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? Use a curve for a glossy paper, like one of the Premium Semigloss curves. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of None > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:10 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > Thank you. > > Scott > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2006-05-15 by Stephen M Martin
I think the paper was made for pk only. That's what I have used and have gotten very nice results. It's all I have printed for weeks.
----- Original Message ----- From: "None" <nospam@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? Thank you. Scott Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2006-05-15 by Edward Wiseman
Hi..
I haven't used Silver Rag with Paul's curves as of yet, but I have tried
it with QTR, and with both MIS PK and with MIS Eboni, and I actually prefer
the results wit the Eboni....Once dried overnight, BOTH are sprayed with
PREMIER ART SHIELD (2 light coats)..The results IMHO have been STUNNING with
this inkset and the 1280..BTW, I'm using the spongeless carts with a "few"
problems, but MIS has been very helpful in getting things to work as
designed..It is important also that you CALL them if you have an issue..I
think emails more often than not got the the "back burner"..
There are BETTER and NEWER printers out there by Epson and others, but
this is the most "cost effective" solution for LONG lasting B&W prints with
results than MANY of us were not able to effectively produce in the old
"WET" darkroom..
Eddie Wiseman----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen M Martin" <steve@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? I think the paper was made for pk only. That's what I have used and have gotten very nice results. It's all I have printed for weeks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "None" <nospam@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? Thank you. Scott Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2006-05-15 by zonepeter
Eddie, What QTR curve are you starting with on using Eboni? Or did you start from scratch? Thanks, Peter --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote: > > Hi.. > > I haven't used Silver Rag with Paul's curves as of yet, but I have tried > it with QTR, and with both MIS PK and with MIS Eboni, and I actually prefer > the results wit the Eboni....Once dried overnight, BOTH are sprayed with > PREMIER ART SHIELD (2 light coats)..The results IMHO have been STUNNING with > this inkset and the 1280..BTW, I'm using the spongeless carts with a "few" > problems, but MIS has been very helpful in getting things to work as > designed..It is important also that you CALL them if you have an issue..I > think emails more often than not got the the "back burner".. > There are BETTER and NEWER printers out there by Epson and others, but > this is the most "cost effective" solution for LONG lasting B&W prints with > results than MANY of us were not able to effectively produce in the old > "WET" darkroom.. > > Eddie Wiseman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen M Martin" <steve@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > I think the paper was made for pk only. That's what I have used and have > gotten very nice results. It's all I have printed for weeks. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "None" <nospam@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:09 AM > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > Thank you. > > Scott > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
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2006-05-15 by Edward Wiseman
"Premium Lustre" seems to work GREAT!.. Eddie Wiseman
----- Original Message ----- From: "zonepeter" <zonepeter@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? Eddie, What QTR curve are you starting with on using Eboni? Or did you start from scratch? Thanks, Peter --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote: > > Hi.. > > I haven't used Silver Rag with Paul's curves as of yet, but I have tried > it with QTR, and with both MIS PK and with MIS Eboni, and I actually prefer > the results wit the Eboni....Once dried overnight, BOTH are sprayed with > PREMIER ART SHIELD (2 light coats)..The results IMHO have been STUNNING with > this inkset and the 1280..BTW, I'm using the spongeless carts with a "few" > problems, but MIS has been very helpful in getting things to work as > designed..It is important also that you CALL them if you have an issue..I > think emails more often than not got the the "back burner".. > There are BETTER and NEWER printers out there by Epson and others, but > this is the most "cost effective" solution for LONG lasting B&W prints with > results than MANY of us were not able to effectively produce in the old > "WET" darkroom.. > > Eddie Wiseman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephen M Martin" <steve@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > I think the paper was made for pk only. That's what I have used and have > gotten very nice results. It's all I have printed for weeks. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "None" <nospam@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:09 AM > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > Thank you. > > Scott > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! 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2006-05-15 by Paul Roark
I would not use Eboni with Museo. However, the UT2, UT7 and now UT-3D curves that are for glossy papers when Eboni is installed do not actually use Eboni. So, I always leave Eboni installed in the printer, but I use a glossy paper curve that cuts out the Eboni and prints with the 2 dark grays. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott > Hendershot > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:26 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > Paul, > > Thank you for the suggestion on the curves. I'm trying to understand what > inkset this paper requires. Most people talk about using it with Epson > inks. > Does it require using the UT2 Photo black? Or will Eboni work just fine? > > Thank you again. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:25 AM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > Use a curve for a glossy paper, like one of the Premium Semigloss curves. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of None > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:10 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 inks > > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources > as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this > same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. 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2006-05-16 by zonepeter
Thanks!! Peter --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Wiseman" <pahts@...> wrote: > > "Premium Lustre" seems to work GREAT!.. > > Eddie Wiseman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "zonepeter" <zonepeter@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > Eddie, > > What QTR curve are you starting with on using Eboni? Or did you > start from scratch? > > Thanks, > Peter > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Wiseman" > <pahts@> wrote: > > > > Hi.. > > > > I haven't used Silver Rag with Paul's curves as of yet, but I > have tried > > it with QTR, and with both MIS PK and with MIS Eboni, and I > actually prefer > > the results wit the Eboni....Once dried overnight, BOTH are sprayed > with > > PREMIER ART SHIELD (2 light coats)..The results IMHO have been > STUNNING with > > this inkset and the 1280..BTW, I'm using the spongeless carts with > a "few" > > problems, but MIS has been very helpful in getting things to work as > > designed..It is important also that you CALL them if you have an > issue..I > > think emails more often than not got the the "back burner".. > > There are BETTER and NEWER printers out there by Epson and > others, but > > this is the most "cost effective" solution for LONG lasting B&W > prints with > > results than MANY of us were not able to effectively produce in the > old > > "WET" darkroom.. > > > > Eddie Wiseman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stephen M Martin" <steve@> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > > > > I think the paper was made for pk only. That's what I have used and > have > > gotten very nice results. It's all I have printed for weeks. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "None" <nospam@> > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 11:09 AM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Museo Silver Rag Epson 1280? > > > > > > I would like to try the new Silver Rag with my Epson 1280 and UT2 > inks > > and wanted to find out what others are using. Does this paper work > > well with the Eboni black or do you need the PK? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W > > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and > > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT > > YAHOO! 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Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and > > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT > > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU > > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY > > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF > THE "OWNER" AND > > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED > OF THE > > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE > INABILITY > > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED > ACCESS TO OR > > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY > > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY > OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! 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