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Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...

2006-06-08 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 6/8/06 1:06:25 AM, zenphoto7@... writes:


> Steve, Nick, and Doug (thanks guys)all had good suggestions regarding
> the banding issues with my 1800 but it suddenly stopped doing it on
> its own but it's doing something else that is NOT GOOD.
> 
> I got QTR and the BW's look nice except the ink looks and behaves
> differently in different sections of the print.
> 

Variability (especially this type of shift/reshift) is never a good sign, and 
most often results in needing a head replacement, or for smaller printers, a 
printer replacement.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...

2006-06-08 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 6/8/06 9:42:40 AM, CDTobie@... writes:


> > I got QTR and the BW's look nice except the ink looks and behaves
> > differently in different sections of the print.
> >
> 
> Variability (especially this type of shift/reshift) is never a good sign, 
> and
> most often results in needing a head replacement, or for smaller printers, a
> printer replacement.
> 

I should explain further. On larger printers its possible to clean or replace 
the baffles, and suck out any crud between there and the heads causing this 
type of on again/off again situation. Advanced tinkerers do this themselves. 
But most users either get the serviceperson to come in for these large printers, 
or simply replace the smaller ones.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...QTR issue?

2006-06-08 by Tim Timmermans

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:

> 
> Variability (especially this type of shift/reshift) is never a good
sign, and 
> most often results in needing a head replacement, or for smaller
printers, a 
> printer replacement.
> 


It's a pretty new printer. Probably less than 40 - 50 prints run
through it. Why would the ink not dry or permanently ahere to the
paper? That's what I can't figure out. Even just now...days later.. I
ran my finger across the print and the gloss area came off like dust.
The matte area turned my thumb black with ink. It's as though I
printed on the wrong side of the paper but I didn't. That was the QTR
print.

A second print using just the printer software rendered a less
attractive print than the QTR version but the ink is dry. There is a
fair amount of bronzing on this BW print though as well as a bit of
metamerism (assuming I'm spelling that correctly).

Is this a QTR issue? Has anyone else had this problem with ink not
drying or adhering?

tim

Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...QTR issue?

2006-06-09 by mamerjoe

Tim,

Oddly enough, I just noticed the same thing last night printing with 
QTR on the Epson 4000. The QTR images smudge and leave black ink on 
my hands but using the Epson software all is fine (except for the bad 
color cast.) I'm using the Ultrachrom inks and Epson Premium Luster 
paper.

No idea whats causing it but it has put an end to my b&w image sales 
until I can resolve it. Have you talked to the software author yet?

Joe
www.joemamer.com


> It's a pretty new printer. Probably less than 40 - 50 prints run
> through it. Why would the ink not dry or permanently ahere to the
> paper? That's what I can't figure out. Even just now...days later.. 
I
> ran my finger across the print and the gloss area came off like 
dust.
> The matte area turned my thumb black with ink. It's as though I
> printed on the wrong side of the paper but I didn't. That was the 
QTR
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> print.
> 
> A second print using just the printer software rendered a less
> attractive print than the QTR version but the ink is dry. There is a
> fair amount of bronzing on this BW print though as well as a bit of
> metamerism (assuming I'm spelling that correctly).
> 
> Is this a QTR issue? Has anyone else had this problem with ink not
> drying or adhering?
> 
> tim
>

Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...QTR issue?

2006-06-09 by Bert Katzung

This sounds like the paper was  upside-down and the ink got on the wrong 
side. Is that a possibility?
Bert

katzung1@...
www.astronomy-images.com
www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/
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From: "mamerjoe" <mamer2005@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...QTR issue?


Tim,

Oddly enough, I just noticed the same thing last night printing with
QTR on the Epson 4000. The QTR images smudge and leave black ink on
my hands but using the Epson software all is fine (except for the bad
color cast.) I'm using the Ultrachrom inks and Epson Premium Luster
paper.

No idea whats causing it but it has put an end to my b&w image sales
until I can resolve it. Have you talked to the software author yet?

Joe
www.joemamer.com


> It's a pretty new printer. Probably less than 40 - 50 prints run
> through it. Why would the ink not dry or permanently ahere to the
> paper? That's what I can't figure out. Even just now...days later..
I
> ran my finger across the print and the gloss area came off like
dust.
> The matte area turned my thumb black with ink. It's as though I
> printed on the wrong side of the paper but I didn't. That was the
QTR
> print.
>
> A second print using just the printer software rendered a less
> attractive print than the QTR version but the ink is dry. There is a
> fair amount of bronzing on this BW print though as well as a bit of
> metamerism (assuming I'm spelling that correctly).
>
> Is this a QTR issue? Has anyone else had this problem with ink not
> drying or adhering?
>
> tim
>









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Re: [Digital BW] It's the weirdest thing...QTR issue?

2006-06-11 by djon43

This may have to do with overloading ink. Note the ink load
adjustments...they're tempting and useful but easy to abuse :-)

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mamerjoe"
<mamer2005@...> wrote:
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>
> Tim,
> 
> Oddly enough, I just noticed the same thing last night printing with 
> QTR on the Epson 4000. The QTR images smudge and leave black ink on 
> my hands but using the Epson software all is fine (except for the bad 
> color cast.) I'm using the Ultrachrom inks and Epson Premium Luster 
> paper.
> 
> No idea whats causing it but it has put an end to my b&w image sales 
> until I can resolve it. Have you talked to the software author yet?
> 
> Joe
> www.joemamer.com
> 
> 
> > It's a pretty new printer. Probably less than 40 - 50 prints run
> > through it. Why would the ink not dry or permanently ahere to the
> > paper? That's what I can't figure out. Even just now...days later.. 
> I
> > ran my finger across the print and the gloss area came off like 
> dust.
> > The matte area turned my thumb black with ink. It's as though I
> > printed on the wrong side of the paper but I didn't. That was the 
> QTR
> > print.
> > 
> > A second print using just the printer software rendered a less
> > attractive print than the QTR version but the ink is dry. There is a
> > fair amount of bronzing on this BW print though as well as a bit of
> > metamerism (assuming I'm spelling that correctly).
> > 
> > Is this a QTR issue? Has anyone else had this problem with ink not
> > drying or adhering?
> > 
> > tim
> >
>

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