Digital BW, The Print

Had a chance to run a couple prints through my 7000 On Bright Cube Eclipse 
Velvet.MIS standard hextones! This is a smooth bright white 350gsm sheet. 
Printable on both sides although one side is slightly smoother than the 
other. I think its HOT. Very nice tone and on the warm side(sorry Jerry) A 
little warmer than EAM. A nice thick photo detail sheet probably only sutable 
for the 7000. Its not like Osprey or Extreme Gamut Satine, or Summerset 
Enhanced. Brighter with a harder surface. Very close to a matt Silver print.
A thinner version is avaible called Satine. I dont think these are rebranded 
extreme Gamut papers! Anybody know? Its about A dollar per 8.5x11 on the 
thick Ecipse Velvet! So not real expensive. Varible tones would take care of 
the warm.
The rep said this thick paper does fine in rolls as it has no "memory" 
meaning it will lie flat after living on a roll all its life.
Here is a descriptor from the site, http://www.photoinkjet.com
"Eclipse Velvet is a 100% cotton fiber, white, acid free, lignen free, double 
sided watercolor paper with multi receiving layers. It has a soft vellum 
finish with an Instant dry emulsion coating on both sides of the sheet . It 
is highly water resistant. Eclipse Velvet is available in 350gsm "

Another interesting 7000 paper in the New Epson fine Art smooth" availible in 
24x36in sheets comming in at 425gsm!. This stuff will stand up against a 
wall! Prints colder to my piezo glazed eyes but warms up nicely after a day 
or two and is about 10.00 per sheet.
For once I bought samples before jumping in all the way(out of character for 
me) But I'am very impressed with the Eclipse Velvet. Guess I'll window test 
it at some point, but it has all the right words in the descriptor! :)
Steve M.

Steve,

could you comment on the relative strength of the black on these papers?
Have you seen them both with the hexatones and the piezo (side by side 
preferably)?
The Eclipse looks miserable with piezo, mainly because it lacks a good black. 
But I hear the Epson FA smooth is a winner in piezo, so I am guessing it wins 
with both inksets.

Thanks for the mini review. Please update us along the way.


Antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> Had a chance to run a couple prints through my 7000 On Bright Cube 
Eclipse 
> Velvet.MIS standard hextones! 
....

> Another interesting 7000 paper in the New Epson fine Art smooth" availible 
in 

> 24x36in sheets comming in at 425gsm!. This stuff will stand up against a 
> wall! Prints colder to my piezo glazed eyes but warms up nicely after a day 
> or two and is about 10.00 per sheet.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> Another interesting 7000 paper in the New Epson fine Art 
smooth" availible in 
> 24x36in sheets comming in at 425gsm!. This stuff will stand 
up against a 
> wall! 


Just a minor correction, but the sheets come in 24"x30" size at 
425gsm. And at Sparco's price, they come in at $7.62 a sheet.

http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A112617

-Mark Tucker
http://marktucker.com

Steve,

Could you run through your workflow for printing with the MIS inks on 
the Eclipse Velvet paper?  Any particular curve or adjustment you 
used?

Todd mentioned that he had tried the Eclipse Satine with MIS and 
gotten result similar to the poor results I got with Piezo inks on 
both the Velvet and Satine.

Thanks,
Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> Had a chance to run a couple prints through my 7000 On Bright Cube 
Eclipse 
> Velvet.MIS standard hextones! This is a smooth bright white 350gsm 
sheet. 
> Printable on both sides although one side is slightly smoother than 
the 
> other. I think its HOT. Very nice tone and on the warm side(sorry 
Jerry) A 
> little warmer than EAM. A nice thick photo detail sheet probably 
only sutable 
> for the 7000. Its not like Osprey or Extreme Gamut Satine, or 
Summerset 
> Enhanced. Brighter with a harder surface. Very close to a matt 
Silver print.
> A thinner version is avaible called Satine. I dont think these are 
rebranded 
> extreme Gamut papers! Anybody know? Its about A dollar per 8.5x11 
on the 
> thick Ecipse Velvet! So not real expensive. Varible tones would 
take care of 
> the warm.
> The rep said this thick paper does fine in rolls as it has 
no "memory" 
> meaning it will lie flat after living on a roll all its life.
> Here is a descriptor from the site, http://www.photoinkjet.com
> "Eclipse Velvet is a 100% cotton fiber, white, acid free, lignen 
free, double 
> sided watercolor paper with multi receiving layers. It has a soft 
vellum 
> finish with an Instant dry emulsion coating on both sides of the 
sheet . It 
> is highly water resistant. Eclipse Velvet is available in 350gsm "
> 
(snip)

>But I'am very impressed with the Eclipse Velvet. Guess I'll window 
test 
> it at some point, but it has all the right words in the 
descriptor! :)
> Steve M.