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2006-10-29 by mccarvill
I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an Epson 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning systems are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also handle ink odors?
2006-10-29 by Mark Savoia
What inks, I have never smelt anything? Mark
On Oct 29, 2006, at 2:34 PM, mccarvill wrote: > I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they > stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an Epson > 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. > > So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning systems > are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the > standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also handle > ink odors? > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-10-30 by osiobrown
The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may have a batch of expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink carts. Adam Brown Osio-Brown Editions www.osiobrown.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" <espresso_forte@...> wrote: > > I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they > stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an Epson > 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. > > So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning systems > are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the > standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also handle > ink odors? >
2006-10-30 by mccarvill
Thanks for the reply. The inks are new (July 06) and the smell only lasts about 24 hrs. So I suspect the smell is probably normal - e.g. think about how much ink is being introduced into the air. What I was looking for was air purifier / cleaner recommendations to deal with the smell during the first smelly 24 hrs. Opening a window in winter isn't a favored option. Cheers, Mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "osiobrown" <adam@...> wrote: > > The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may have a batch of > expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink carts. > > Adam Brown > Osio-Brown Editions > www.osiobrown.com > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" > <espresso_forte@> wrote: > > > > I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they > > stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an > Epson > > 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. > > > > So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning systems
> > are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the > > standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also > handle > > ink odors? > > >
2006-10-30 by osiobrown
I again wanted to stress to you that the smell your inks are producing is NOT normal. This alone should convince you that there is something wrong. I would replace your inks. Adam Brown Osio-Brown Editions www.osiobrown.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" <espresso_forte@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the reply. > > The inks are new (July 06) and the smell only lasts about 24 hrs. So > I suspect the smell is probably normal - e.g. think about how much > ink is being introduced into the air. What I was looking for was air > purifier / cleaner recommendations to deal with the smell during the > first smelly 24 hrs. Opening a window in winter isn't a favored > option. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "osiobrown" > <adam@> wrote: > > > > The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may have a batch of > > expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink carts. > > > > Adam Brown > > Osio-Brown Editions > > www.osiobrown.com > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" > > <espresso_forte@> wrote: > > > > > > I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they > > > stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an > > Epson > > > 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. > > > > > > So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning > systems > > > are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the > > > standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also
> > handle > > > ink odors? > > > > > >
2006-10-30 by Mark Savoia
Something must be wrong. There is no odor with the inks, is it your paper? Mark
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:57 AM, mccarvill wrote: > Thanks for the reply. > > The inks are new (July 06) and the smell only lasts about 24 hrs. So > I suspect the smell is probably normal - e.g. think about how much > ink is being introduced into the air. What I was looking for was air > purifier / cleaner recommendations to deal with the smell during the > first smelly 24 hrs. Opening a window in winter isn't a favored > option. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "osiobrown" > <adam@...> wrote: >> >> The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may have a batch of >> expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink carts. >> >> Adam Brown >> Osio-Brown Editions >> www.osiobrown.com >> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" >> <espresso_forte@> wrote: >>> >>> I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they >>> stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an >> Epson >>> 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. >>> >>> So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning > systems >>> are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the >>> standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also >> handle >>> ink odors? >>> >> > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-10-30 by Stephen Castello
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:07:14 -0000, "osiobrown" <adam@...> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out: >I again wanted to stress to you that the smell your inks are >producing is NOT normal. This alone should convince you that there >is something wrong. I would replace your inks. > I've used Canon, HP and Epson printers, they all stink while drying. Some papers even have their own smell with wet ink. Stephen --
2006-10-30 by gilbert Draper
What did you eat for dinner? Gil --- Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > Something must be wrong. There is no odor with the > inks, is it your > paper? > Mark > > On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:57 AM, mccarvill wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply. > > > > The inks are new (July 06) and the smell only > lasts about 24 hrs. So > > I suspect the smell is probably normal - e.g. > think about how much > > ink is being introduced into the air. What I was > looking for was air > > purifier / cleaner recommendations to deal with > the smell during the > > first smelly 24 hrs. Opening a window in winter > isn't a favored > > option. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mark > > > > --- In > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > "osiobrown" > > <adam@...> wrote: > >> > >> The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may > have a batch of > >> expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink > carts. > >> > >> Adam Brown > >> Osio-Brown Editions > >> www.osiobrown.com > >> > >> > >> --- In > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > "mccarvill" > >> <espresso_forte@> wrote: > >>> > >>> I just made my first large format (23x33") > prints and boy do they > >>> stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look > fine. I'm using an > >> Epson > >>> 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. > >>> > >>> So now I'm wondering what kind of air > ventilation / cleaning > > systems > >>> are popular with people who regularly make large > prints. Will the > >>> standard air cleaners that remove cigarette > smoke and dust also > >> handle > >>> ink odors? > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the > Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily > digest, or you > > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > preferences by > > visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of > earlier messages > > to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No > personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users > may be removed > > from the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group > topic of digital > > B&W printing. 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2006-10-30 by John Moody
You guys must have broken noses. The current UT7 inks have a distinct ammonia smell. Best regards, John Moody
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark Savoia Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:17 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Clearing the air about large format inkjet prints Something must be wrong. There is no odor with the inks, is it your paper? Mark
2006-10-30 by Walker Blackwell
Does it smell like dead fish? My Ultrachromes smell like that when they off-gas. Really nasty when I have 10 large 40x50 lusters hanging around. I've never found out what it is. The K3 ink smells a little better. Walker
On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Mark Savoia wrote: > Something must be wrong. There is no odor with the inks, is it your > paper? > Mark > > On Oct 30, 2006, at 9:57 AM, mccarvill wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply. >> >> The inks are new (July 06) and the smell only lasts about 24 hrs. So >> I suspect the smell is probably normal - e.g. think about how much >> ink is being introduced into the air. What I was looking for was air >> purifier / cleaner recommendations to deal with the smell during the >> first smelly 24 hrs. Opening a window in winter isn't a favored >> option. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mark >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "osiobrown" >> <adam@...> wrote: >>> >>> The smell you are noticing is not normal. You may have a batch of >>> expired inks. Check the date on each of your ink carts. >>> >>> Adam Brown >>> Osio-Brown Editions >>> www.osiobrown.com >>> >>> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "mccarvill" >>> <espresso_forte@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just made my first large format (23x33") prints and boy do they >>>> stink. All that ink, I mean. The prints look fine. I'm using an >>> Epson >>>> 7600 loaded with MIS UT7 carbon-pigment inks. >>>> >>>> So now I'm wondering what kind of air ventilation / cleaning >> systems >>>> are popular with people who regularly make large prints. Will the >>>> standard air cleaners that remove cigarette smoke and dust also >>> handle >>>> ink odors? >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other >> resources as they are often being updated. >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint >> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you >> wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by >> visiting this same page. >> >> Please follow these basic guidelines: >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages >> to keep them short. >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or >> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed >> from the membership without notice. >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital >> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be >> removed from the membership. >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules >> and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the >> group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” >> in the Files section: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ >> >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE >> “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL >> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, >> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, >> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER >> INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL >> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF >> SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE >> THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO >> OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR >> CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO >> GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE >> PRINT YAHOO GROUP. >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. 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2006-10-30 by Mark Savoia
Then again, I can't smell fixer anymore. 42 years in a darkroom does that. Mark
On Oct 30, 2006, at 10:46 AM, John Moody wrote: > You guys must have broken noses. The current UT7 inks have a distinct > ammonia smell. > > Best regards, > John Moody > > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark > Savoia > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 10:17 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Clearing the air about large format > inkjet > prints > > Something must be wrong. There is no odor with the inks, is it your > paper? > Mark > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > group Owner and Moderators. See “Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines” > in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2006-10-30 by Walker Blackwell
IT IS! It is the smell of ammonia. I should have realized that. Cut an ink bag open and dump bleach into it. Wonder what that would do. ;-) It wouldn't clear the air. That's for sure.
2006-10-30 by Phil Radlick
Even though the comment below may have been made in jest, I just want to say the mixing ammonia and bleach is a very bad idea. The resulting reaction produces a very toxic mixture and should never be done!! Best, Phil
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Walker Blackwell Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:39 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Clearing the air about large format inkjet prints IT IS! It is the smell of ammonia. I should have realized that. Cut an ink bag open and dump bleach into it. Wonder what that would do. ;-) It wouldn't clear the air. That's for sure. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-10-30 by Walker Blackwell
Yeah. Sorry. Should have made the jest-part more clear. :-) By all means, don't do that without a full chem mask and goggles. It's a very bad poison. W
2006-10-31 by mbutler355
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walker Blackwell <wblackwell@...> wrote: > > Yeah. Sorry. Should have made the jest-part more clear. :-) By all > means, don't do that without a full chem mask and goggles. It's a > very bad poison. > > W > ...too...late...I'm afraid...Hazmat on the way... Here's something that works for me: when I get nostalgic for the smell of fixer, I move the cat box into my office for a few days...