Digital BW, The Print

grdglass@... wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Is this system something that is currrently available for sale on the MIS
> site or is it only in the testing phase?  I looked for it but cannot find it
> on the MIS pages.
> 
> Helene

Helene,

It is not yet available on the MIS site but It should be shortly. One
thing that must be kept in mind is that this vacuum fill procedure only
works with Virgin empties.

-Jeff

Helene,

>Is this system something that is currently available for sale on the MIS
>site or is it only in the testing phase?

Give Bob a call at MIS.  I was testing it, but I'd think he would sell them.
We didn't know if the "T" junctions were re-useable, but I've now re-used a
set 10 times with no problems.

Paul

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<< The key to the system is a "T" junction that has a soft plug in it that a
sharp syringe will go through.  One short tube from this junction is shoved
into the hole in the cart.  Another short tube from this junction goes to
the vacuum pump (like the CIS unit).  You pull a vacuum, crimp the tube to
the pump, stick the sharp needle of the syringe full ink through the soft
plug, and the ink gets pulled out of the syringe into the cart. >>

>>Do you (or anyone else here) know how long those 1 micron screens last,
>> using the "bottom fill" technique?

>Once you've poked a hole through it with a needle, the integrity of the
>filter is broken. Best to use the top fill.

Saving the screens is a big reason I pushed for the vacuum filling
procedure.  I think we need these filters to be sure the 1 micron screens in
the printer heads do not get clogged.

> It works fine if you let the
>carts sit overnight, and it's not as messy as bottom fill.

With the vacuum filling, you can use the cart immediately.  At least I have
with about 90% perfect nozzle checks immediately.  The vacuum pulls the ink
right down into the outlet.  In fact, if you don't see the ink down there,
you can get it there with a quick shake (like that way you shake down the
temperature reading of a thermometer).

>these neat 12 cent corks at Ace Hardware
>that plug the holes quite nicely and very quickly- no leakage.

I'll have to try these.

> I also
>used a "c" clamp tightened very lightly  (just touching really) after
>vacuum pump applied to hold the K cart in the right position as it
>tends to tip over during fill.

I used a clamp at first, but found that by increasing the length of the
tubing from the "T" to the cart to about 3 inches, it avoided the pumping
action from tipping over the cart.

>...now that I have the carts filled, sitting on
>forward edge (filling position), with the corks stuck in them, when do
>I rotate them back into standard position,  with fill holes on top?

Once you see only ink in the outlet, they work fine.  That is usually
immediately.

>Also when do I remove corks, does the cart need to breathe out air
>bubbles?

When you use carts, like Epson OEM carts, you're supposed to remove the
yellow tape so that air can enter as the ink is pulled out.  So, I do this
and usually just leave the tape I've put on as is.

> When do I reseal, with something more practical for printer
>insertion, like tape or hot melt glue?

You don't have to re-seal  at all.  I've been using these carts
bottom-filled with no covers on the top holes.

Paul

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:

> 
> >these neat 12 cent corks at Ace Hardware
> >that plug the holes quite nicely and very quickly- no leakage.
> 
> I'll have to try these.
> 

> 
> >Also when do I remove corks, does the cart need to breathe out air
> >bubbles?
> 
> When you use carts, like Epson OEM carts, you're supposed to remove 
the
> yellow tape so that air can enter as the ink is pulled out.  So, I 
do this
> and usually just leave the tape I've put on as is.
> 
> > When do I reseal, with something more practical for printer
> >insertion, like tape or hot melt glue?
> 
> You don't have to re-seal  at all.  I've been using these carts
> bottom-filled with no covers on the top holes.
> 
> Paul

Thank you Paul. What I did was turn the carts right side up, remove 
corks, catch just a tad of overspill (like three drops total, pretty 
good for not overfilling them) from the large holes, then I put 
electrical tape on the large holes, and had done with it. Bob at MIS 
had recommended to me pulling the vent tabs right away, and letting it 
breathe at least one week. I'm not sure it needs that long but we'll 
see, I don't need to install it right away. At some point if carts 
aren't ready to swap out, I'll retape the VENT holes with electrical 
tape.

I had some concerns at first as to whether there was a slight chance 
the electrical tape on the larger fill holes might react with the ink 
and eventually clog a nozzle after many carts, but I'm probably just 
skittish after all  being the "clog king".

I really like the corks and I mentioned it to Bob. He liked it too, 
and said he had found some rubber corks he might include in each kit. 
I expect these would be more durable than ones made of "cork" 
material.

This is my first experience with the chips and the QB7 resetter. My 
two comments are that I found it difficult to press the chip in place, 
it wouldn't stay without using some force applied with a small 
screwdriver blade, and even now will wobble side to side if you goof 
with it. The Qb7 resetter, when used with the T007 cart and the 
plastic spacer, isn't guided well at all, and I had to carefully 
insure that the contact points lined up side to side. I made the 
mistake of filling the carts first, and turning them upside down for a 
couple of minutes or more is probably not wise. Next time I install 
and reset chip first, before fill...duh.
Jim H.

I can't access the vacuum loading instructions from either MIS or Media
Street's site. For some reason the link is broken on both sites. If anyone
has them handy if you could you send them to me directly
<tflash@...> or post them to this list I'd be most grateful.

Thanks
Todd