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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

2007-01-21 by John Custodio

This is absolutly the best of the new fiber glossy papers I've tried. Great depth, with a surface that is not obtrusive.
-John
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From: zonepeter <zonepeter@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:12:57 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte









  


    
            Just got my samples today.  2 sheets!  Hard to do much testing, but 

here are my first impressions:



Dmax with UC3 PK:  2.35  Dried with hair dryer.  It may still come 

down some.  This compares to 2.43 with Innova type F.  



The surface is very smooth.  It stills shows a little texture, 

similair in appearance to the type F but less.  And none of the 

stippling that Silver Rag and Fine Art Pearl have.  It is slightly 

less glossy than an air dried F service silver print.  I actually 

think that the Innova type F is the closest I have seen in terms of 

gloss.

  

It has OBAs and the surface color is similiar to the type F. 



It does seem to exhibit a bit of gloss differential.  I haven't tried 

the highlight point shift yet to see if it will correct it.



I made a quick QTRICC profile using neutral(0/0) / dark.



Using neutral settings, I like the color tone I am getting.  This is 

very much a first impression, but it seems neutral with a slight 

selenium sort of a look to my eye.  The type F looks the same, and I 

think it is the best looking print I have made at the neutral setting 

with my 3800.



Last and best...and very subjective on my part (as all of this is):

I have always thought that matte papers have a depth that is lacking 

on glossy.  Even the newest one.  My first impression of the semi 

matte is that it has some of this depth.  In looking at a receding 

landscape it seems to have some of that sense that you can crawl into 

the picture like the good matte papers do.  That is one of the things 

that has kept me using matte papers most of the time.



My overall impression.. .and this is based on only 2 small (4x6) 

pictures,is that I like it.  There is still room for improvement. ..I 

am hoping that Hahnemuhle introduces the PhotoRag Pearl I have read 

about and that it is great, but right now, I will be ordering the 

Innova semi-matte tomorrow!!



Peter





    
  

    
    




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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

2007-01-22 by artistsloft4811

sounds great John and Peter, i'm really looking for something other than silver rag's 
stipple.  can I ask  where your samples are from?  or who has the best price?  thanks, 

chuck

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, John Custodio 
<custodiojohn@...> wrote:
>
> This is absolutly the best of the new fiber glossy papers I've tried. Great depth, with a 
surface that is not obtrusive.
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> -John
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: zonepeter <zonepeter@...>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:12:57 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>     
>             Just got my samples today.  2 sheets!  Hard to do much testing, but 
> 
> here are my first impressions:
> 
> 
> 
> Dmax with UC3 PK:  2.35  Dried with hair dryer.  It may still come 
> 
> down some.  This compares to 2.43 with Innova type F.  
> 
> 
> 
> The surface is very smooth.  It stills shows a little texture, 
> 
> similair in appearance to the type F but less.  And none of the 
> 
> stippling that Silver Rag and Fine Art Pearl have.  It is slightly 
> 
> less glossy than an air dried F service silver print.  I actually 
> 
> think that the Innova type F is the closest I have seen in terms of 
> 
> gloss.
> 
>   
> 
> It has OBAs and the surface color is similiar to the type F. 
> 
> 
> 
> It does seem to exhibit a bit of gloss differential.  I haven't tried 
> 
> the highlight point shift yet to see if it will correct it.
> 
> 
> 
> I made a quick QTRICC profile using neutral(0/0) / dark.
> 
> 
> 
> Using neutral settings, I like the color tone I am getting.  This is 
> 
> very much a first impression, but it seems neutral with a slight 
> 
> selenium sort of a look to my eye.  The type F looks the same, and I 
> 
> think it is the best looking print I have made at the neutral setting 
> 
> with my 3800.
> 
> 
> 
> Last and best...and very subjective on my part (as all of this is):
> 
> I have always thought that matte papers have a depth that is lacking 
> 
> on glossy.  Even the newest one.  My first impression of the semi 
> 
> matte is that it has some of this depth.  In looking at a receding 
> 
> landscape it seems to have some of that sense that you can crawl into 
> 
> the picture like the good matte papers do.  That is one of the things 
> 
> that has kept me using matte papers most of the time.
> 
> 
> 
> My overall impression.. .and this is based on only 2 small (4x6) 
> 
> pictures,is that I like it.  There is still room for improvement. ..I 
> 
> am hoping that Hahnemuhle introduces the PhotoRag Pearl I have read 
> 
> about and that it is great, but right now, I will be ordering the 
> 
> Innova semi-matte tomorrow!!
> 
> 
> 
> Peter
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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

2007-01-22 by zonepeter

Chuck,
I got my samples from Shades of Paper.  It is part of the sample pack 
of the new glossy papers they have put together.  2 sheets of 5 
different papers for $20.  I only wanted to try 2 of the papaers, but 
it still beats buying a box of 50.  I will be buying from them.  
Prices are usually competitive and the service is great!

Peter

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DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "artistsloft4811" 
<chuck@...> wrote:
>
> sounds great John and Peter, i'm really looking for something other 
than silver rag's 
> stipple.  can I ask  where your samples are from?  or who has the 
best price?  thanks, 
> 
> chuck
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Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

2007-01-22 by John Custodio

Shades Of Paper and Adorama both sell Fiba Print Semi Matte (also called Fiba Print Satin High White).

-John
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----- Original Message ----
From: artistsloft4811 <chuck@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:42:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte









  


    
            sounds great John and Peter, i'm really looking for something other than silver rag's 

stipple.  can I ask  where your samples are from?  or who has the best price?  thanks, 



chuck



--- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, John Custodio 

<custodiojohn@ ...> wrote:

>

> This is absolutly the best of the new fiber glossy papers I've tried. Great depth, with a 

surface that is not obtrusive.

> -John

> 

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: zonepeter <zonepeter@. ..>

> To: DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 12:12:57 AM

> Subject: [Digital BW] Innova Fiba print semi matte

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>   

> 

> 

>     

>             Just got my samples today.  2 sheets!  Hard to do much testing, but 

> 

> here are my first impressions:

> 

> 

> 

> Dmax with UC3 PK:  2.35  Dried with hair dryer.  It may still come 

> 

> down some.  This compares to 2.43 with Innova type F.  

> 

> 

> 

> The surface is very smooth.  It stills shows a little texture, 

> 

> similair in appearance to the type F but less.  And none of the 

> 

> stippling that Silver Rag and Fine Art Pearl have.  It is slightly 

> 

> less glossy than an air dried F service silver print.  I actually 

> 

> think that the Innova type F is the closest I have seen in terms of 

> 

> gloss.

> 

>   

> 

> It has OBAs and the surface color is similiar to the type F. 

> 

> 

> 

> It does seem to exhibit a bit of gloss differential.  I haven't tried 

> 

> the highlight point shift yet to see if it will correct it.

> 

> 

> 

> I made a quick QTRICC profile using neutral(0/0) / dark.

> 

> 

> 

> Using neutral settings, I like the color tone I am getting.  This is 

> 

> very much a first impression, but it seems neutral with a slight 

> 

> selenium sort of a look to my eye.  The type F looks the same, and I 

> 

> think it is the best looking print I have made at the neutral setting 

> 

> with my 3800.

> 

> 

> 

> Last and best...and very subjective on my part (as all of this is):

> 

> I have always thought that matte papers have a depth that is lacking 

> 

> on glossy.  Even the newest one.  My first impression of the semi 

> 

> matte is that it has some of this depth.  In looking at a receding 

> 

> landscape it seems to have some of that sense that you can crawl into 

> 

> the picture like the good matte papers do.  That is one of the things 

> 

> that has kept me using matte papers most of the time.

> 

> 

> 

> My overall impression.. .and this is based on only 2 small (4x6) 

> 

> pictures,is that I like it.  There is still room for improvement. ..I 

> 

> am hoping that Hahnemuhle introduces the PhotoRag Pearl I have read 

> 

> about and that it is great, but right now, I will be ordering the 

> 

> Innova semi-matte tomorrow!!

> 

> 

> 

> Peter

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

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>   

> 

>     

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