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Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

RE: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-12 by Paul Roark

Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain.  Even non-members can order
if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco.com/>  webpage.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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Subject: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black
on Epson 2400

 

Hello,

What are your favorite inexpensive proofing papers for using with
photo black on an Epson 2400? I will use the proofing papers before
printing on Museo Silver Rag or Innova semi-matte.

Thanks,

Roger

 



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RE: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-12 by mail@cajunimages.com

How does the Kirkland paper hold up over time?  Can you use it for  
more than proofing?

Thanks for all of your help.


George Payne

Quoting Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>:
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> Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain.  Even non-members can order
> if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco.com/>  webpage.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> roger98195
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:40 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black
> on Epson 2400
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> What are your favorite inexpensive proofing papers for using with
> photo black on an Epson 2400? I will use the proofing papers before
> printing on Museo Silver Rag or Innova semi-matte.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-13 by mackcolin2003

Just to let you all know, the Kirkland paper is made by Ilford, the 
emulsion is based on the Galerie smooth product.

Cheers

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, mail@... wrote:
>
> How does the Kirkland paper hold up over time?  Can you use it for  
> more than proofing?
> 
> Thanks for all of your help.
> 
> 
> George Payne
> 
> Quoting Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>:
> 
> > Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain.  Even non-members 
can order
> > if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco.com/>  webpage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > roger98195
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:40 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with 
photo black
> > on Epson 2400
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > What are your favorite inexpensive proofing papers for using with
> > photo black on an Epson 2400? I will use the proofing papers 
before
> > printing on Museo Silver Rag or Innova semi-matte.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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RE: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-13 by Paul Roark

>How does the Kirkland paper hold up over time? 
>Can you use it for more than proofing?

I use if for brochures, etc. but not prints I sell (which are generally
matte anyway).  With the acid test pen the interior paper does seem to test
as buffered.  That is the conspicuous difference between the Epson Premium
RC papers that are said to be archival and most of the other RC types of
papers, which are generally felt to be quite non-archival.  However, with no
statements from the seller about being acid free, that interior paper could
still have too much residual lignin in it.  So, the acid test pen is no
guarantee that the paper will last a long time.

Personally, my guess is that that paper is good enough for all uses except
sales that are explicitly said to be archival and acid free.  I suspect the
paper is good for most uses, and way better than the acidic papers that the
manufacturers admit are only good for 30 years.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

RE: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-13 by Tom Maugham

Ilford is no longer the supplier.  The paper is now made in the USA but the
manufacturer is not known.

 

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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo
black on Epson 2400

 

Just to let you all know, the Kirkland paper is made by Ilford, the 
emulsion is based on the Galerie smooth product.

Cheers

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, mail@... wrote:
>
> How does the Kirkland paper hold up over time? Can you use it for 
> more than proofing?
> 
> Thanks for all of your help.
> 
> 
> George Payne
> 
> Quoting Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>:
> 
> > Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain. Even non-members 
can order
> > if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco. <http://www.costco.com/>
com/> webpage.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/>
k.com/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhit
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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > roger98195
> > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 11:40 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with 
photo black
> > on Epson 2400
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > What are your favorite inexpensive proofing papers for using with
> > photo black on an Epson 2400? I will use the proofing papers 
before
> > printing on Museo Silver Rag or Innova semi-matte.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
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<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint>
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> > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may 
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and 
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> > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE 
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SHALL 
> > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, 
SPECIAL, 
> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED 
TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER 
INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, 
THE 
> > PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
> > DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE 
THE 
> > DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO 
OR 
> > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR 
> > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO 
GROUP; 
> > OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
> > YAHOO GROUP.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
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Re: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-13 by Flashbulb

For some reason I can not find this paper anywhere on the Costco site.  Have they stopped 
selling it?

-Jeff


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> Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain.  Even non-members can order
> if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco.com/>  webpage.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>

Re: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-13 by heningerw

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Flashbulb" <jef.jef@...> wrote:
>
> For some reason I can not find this paper anywhere on the Costco site.  Have they stopped 
> selling it?

You can get it on the MIS website if you're desperate to try it.  I bought some there b/c I was 
ordering ink anyhow and coudl avoid a trip to Costco.

http://inksupply.com/paper.cfm#kpg

RE: [Digital BW] Inexpensive proofing papers for use with photo black on Epson 2400

2007-02-14 by Paul Roark

Interesting, I can't find it either. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


>... I can not find this paper [Kirkland Glossy] anywhere on 
>the Costco site. Have they stopped selling it?

-Jeff
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>> Kirkland Glossy Photo paper is a wild bargain. Even non-members can order
>> if off the www.costco.com <http://www.costco.com/> webpage.

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