Digital BW, The Print

I have been playing with the Brightcube Eclipse Satine 190, 300 or 
Velvet 350 and Piezo inks. You might want to try the settings below. 
Maybe someone else can dial it in tighter.

Try the unsupported profile and set Gamma = 0.92 and Dot Density = 
104%

Is this getting close?

Seems like the blacks are at Museo level with a much brighter white 
base. There is still some veiling in shadow areas but better than the 
standard profiles. I really like the very neutral tone. Not quite up 
to the Legion Photo Matte or the Torchon but much better than I first 
thought. I think the base is much nicer than the LPM. I they would 
just tweak the coating so that it is not quite so porous it would be 
a real winner for the pigment inks.

Has anyone tried it with any of the dye ink sets?

Martin

Martin,

Is the BrightCube Eclipe Velvet and Satine similar to their old 
Extreme Gamut Satine?

Mike

Mike,

Not really these are smoother and print much differently. Very nice 
paper but I wouldn't buy any for Piezo unless some one can figure out 
a workable profile first.

For MIS I am hearing mixed reviews. Steve really liked it and Todd 
got results similar to the Piezo inks. I am not sure if they have the 
same MIS ink sets though.

I still see the Xtreme Gamut Satine available at several dealers. Has 
it gone out of production?

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<kravit@b...> wrote:

> Martin,
> 
> Is the BrightCube Eclipe Velvet and Satine similar to their old 
> Extreme Gamut Satine?
> 
> Mike

on 8/17/01 9:25 AM, mwesley250@... wrote:

> Mike,
> 
> Not really these are smoother and print much differently. Very nice
> paper but I wouldn't buy any for Piezo unless some one can figure out
> a workable profile first.
> 
> For MIS I am hearing mixed reviews. Steve really liked it and Todd
> got results similar to the Piezo inks. I am not sure if they have the
> same MIS ink sets though.

No. I'm using Paul's earlier VT incarnation, which is a blend of Piezo BW
inks with Generations as the toner. Thus, it would follow that my results
are similar to Piezo as my prints are composed *almost* entirely of Piezo
inks. I'd say the major difference between my setup and Piezo, has less to
do with the inks, and more to do with profiles/workflow. On the other hand,
relative to the MIS VT, my workflow is more similar, but my inks are
different.

FWIW, my next batch of ink will be the MIS VT.

Todd

Mike, The Bright cube Eclipse Velvet is like a photo matte paper whereas The 
Extreme Gamut Satine is more like an art paper Like Sumerset or Osprey.
Eclipse is like EAM but much thicker. The Eclipse Satine I have not actually 
seen.
Since there is a large variety of ink sets on this list I would urge users to 
test samples before buying any quantity.
Steve M.

n a message dated 08/17/2001 6:05:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
kravit@... writes:

<< Is the BrightCube Eclipe Velvet and Satine similar to their old 
 Extreme Gamut Satine?
 
 Mike >>