Digital BW, The Print

Having printed only black-and-white for the past 25 years, I was 
recemtly faced with an interesting challenge. I had taken a nice 
informal portait of my elderly mother with my new digital camera.When I 
came home I immediately converted the image to black-and-white, but her 
pale lined face and pastel sweater just didn't work in black-and white. 
I tried printing color on my 2400, but realized I had no idea how to do 
it.

So, I went to Wegman's, our local food market, and after about ten 
minutes on the photo machine had a beautiful color print. In fact, I 
made about 10 to send to the family. What great technology!

Anyone else face this situation, and do you use these machines? Any 
other solutions, other than reading all the chapters on color printing?

Evan

Evan, I don't see printing color as a great challenge. If you could have
done it at the store, with unfamiliar software and hardware, you should
certainly be able to do it at home. You must be printing with a dedicated
B&W ink set? 

 

At this point in the Color management of the printers, papers, and inks you
should be able to get close prints straight away by flushing and printing
with any well made inks that have free profiles for the paper or paper
profiles for selected inks. 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214-827-8301

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

 

Skype : ejprinter

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan
Wolarsky
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:46 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Photo Kiosk

 

Having printed only black-and-white for the past 25 years, I was 
recemtly faced with an interesting challenge. I had taken a nice 
informal portait of my elderly mother with my new digital camera.When I 
came home I immediately converted the image to black-and-white, but her 
pale lined face and pastel sweater just didn't work in black-and white. 
I tried printing color on my 2400, but realized I had no idea how to do 
it.

So, I went to Wegman's, our local food market, and after about ten 
minutes on the photo machine had a beautiful color print. In fact, I 
made about 10 to send to the family. What great technology!

Anyone else face this situation, and do you use these machines? Any 
other solutions, other than reading all the chapters on color printing?

Evan

 



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Eric,
I'm using the 2400 with Epson inks, however I've optimized my system 
for using ABW. I'm sure that you're correct, if I had a properly color 
managed system.

However, my real question was whether any one used these kiosk machines 
for the occasional print?

Hi Evan,

If I have a image that the "photo eye in the sky" won't mess-up, I use the
fuji kiosk at walmart. In my case it's not the "while-you-wait" kiosk.

Can't beat it with a stick. They are only 8x10, but I showed them to my
buddie with a 2400 and he was impressed.

There are a few photoshops on the internet that do offer to bypass image
correction and a choice of paper and larger sizes(not walmart).

For quick and dirty work, it's worth spending an evening checking it out. I
haven't tried it, but I think I can upload an image to my walmart account
and pick it up tommorow.

gar

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Wolarsky
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:46 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Photo Kiosk


Having printed only black-and-white for the past 25 years, I was
recemtly faced with an interesting challenge. I had taken a nice
informal portait of my elderly mother with my new digital camera.When I
came home I immediately converted the image to black-and-white, but her
pale lined face and pastel sweater just didn't work in black-and white.
I tried printing color on my 2400, but realized I had no idea how to do
it.

So, I went to Wegman's, our local food market, and after about ten
minutes on the photo machine had a beautiful color print. In fact, I
made about 10 to send to the family. What great technology!

Anyone else face this situation, and do you use these machines? Any
other solutions, other than reading all the chapters on color printing?

Evan




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In a message dated 3/19/07 4:24:06 PM, e.neilsen2@... writes:


> Evan, I don't see printing color as a great challenge.
> 

Spoken like a dedicated B&W printer. <G>   Color printing isn't a 
challenge... until it gets challenging. Which it does about as often as B&W printing gets 
challenging. And not always when or where you might expect...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com



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In a message dated 3/19/07 4:44:06 PM, wolarsky@... writes:


> 
> However, my real question was whether any one used these kiosk machines
> for the occasional print?
> 
> 

I developed the color management functions for one brand of kiosk system, and 
its the same stuff we use for printing from Photoshop, just set up to be as 
foolproof as possible. Same foolproofing functions I put in PrintFIX PRO, now 
that I think about it... the bottom line is a calibrated monitor, and a good 
printer profile, then turning off color management in the driver, same with a 
lab or an inkjet.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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I did a couple of times.
But now I just upload them to Costco and go pick them up.
It works great. I have the best luck with the sRBG color space.

Mike J.

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Wolarsky
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 3:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Kiosk

Eric,
I'm using the 2400 with Epson inks, however I've optimized my system
for using ABW. I'm sure that you're correct, if I had a properly color
managed system.

However, my real question was whether any one used these kiosk machines
for the occasional print?

In a message dated 3/19/2007 5:44:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
wolarsky@... writes:

However,  my real question was whether any one used these kiosk machines 
for the  occasional print? 





On this forum???
 
Richard (Brooklyn)



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Richard, the point was to ask people whose systems were setup to print 
only black-and-white, what they did with the very occasional need to 
send someone a color snapshot. ?kisk ?online service.

You can even softproof your images by getting the profile of the 
individual printer they are using at that particular store. You do this 
by going to the web. Costco's, among others, are here:

http://www.drycreekphoto.com/icc/

I use this quite often for quick prints by uploading through the web 
then picking up at the store (Costco). It's quick and easy, the results 
are great, no muss no fuss and cheaper than I can print at home.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Evan Wolarsky" 
<wolarsky@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone else face this situation, and do you use these machines? 
Any 
> other solutions, other than reading all the chapters on color 
printing?
> 
> Evan
>

I only used the kiosks before getting my R880, then R2400.  I tried 
both the Kodak and the Fuji.  The prints off the Kodak were quite 
good whereas the prints off the Fuji were, IMHO, garbage.

When I got the R800, I printed both BW and color on it.  I sold it 
to go wider and got the R2400.  I am a BW printer, and even though I 
have not yet done so, I would not hesitate to print color on it.

keithz
kzarts.com