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Same printer for BW and color

Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by Andre Vallejo da Silva

This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...

Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
by using the  right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)

Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?

Best,
Andr�

Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by Manuel Toledo Quinones

André,

With the R2400 you get very good color prints, and also can use the
Advanced Black and White (ABW)  mode, which produces very nice B&W but
uses some color. Alternatively, you could use QTR and use only the
black inks but I think that in most papers the print will not be
neutral. If you add some color you can get neutral prints with QTR and
still avoid the yellow pigment, which is less lightfast than the other
colors. ABW uses some yellow. The R2400 also produces nice B&W prints
in rgb mode, provided that a good profile is used.

The following sites have very good information that is available
thanks to the generousity of Clinton Jones and Paul Roark, two of the
experts of the group. You might find them usefull if you decide to
consider the R2400.

http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/2400.pdf

Best wishes,

Manuel

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Vallejo da
Silva" <mastologia@...> wrote:
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>
> This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...
> 
> Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
> be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
> by using the  right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
> BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)
> 
> Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
> driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?
> 
> Best,
> André
>

[Digital BW] Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by Debbi

You will never regret buy a Epson R2400. The 
prints for color and B&W are amazing.
Debbi
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>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Vallejo da
>Silva" <mastologia@...> wrote:
>>
>>  This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...
>>
>>  Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
>>  be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
>>  by using the  right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
>>  BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)
>>
>>  Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
>>  driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?
>>
>>  Best,
>  > André
>  >

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by carole debeer

i just got a refurbished 2400 from epson and the difference from my 960 is not impressive(haven't printed b&w yet) could i be doing sonme thing wrong?

Debbi <corkie@...> wrote:          You will never regret buy a Epson R2400. The 
prints for color and B&W are amazing.
Debbi

>
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Vallejo da
>Silva" <mastologia@...> wrote:
>>
>> This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...
>>
>> Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
>> be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
>> by using the right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
>> BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)
>>
>> Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
>> driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?
>>
>> Best,
> > André
> >


         

       
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by Debbi

Do you 'let the printer determine the color"?
That is the show stopper.
Debbi
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>i just got a refurbished 2400 from epson and the 
>difference from my 960 is not impressive(haven't 
>printed b&w yet) could i be doing sonme thing 
>wrong?
>
>Debbi <corkie@...> wrote:          You 
>will never regret buy a Epson R2400. The
>prints for color and B&W are amazing.
>Debbi
>
>>
>>
>>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Vallejo da
>>Silva" <mastologia@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>  This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...
>>>
>>>  Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
>>>  be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
>>>  by using the right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
>>>  BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)
>>>
>>>  Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
>>>  driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?
>>>
>>>  Best,
>>  > André
>>  >
>
>
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 4/15/07 4:41:22 PM, cdbetc@... writes:


> i just got a refurbished 2400 from epson and the difference from my 960 is 
> not impressive(haven't printed b&w yet) could i be doing sonme thing wrong?
> 

First move from dye to pigment is often viewed this way. But the low 
metamerism in 2400 B&W is one immediate advantage that you'll see!

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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Re: Same printer for BW and color

2007-04-15 by Keith Zimmerman

You won't regret getting an Epson R2400.  I love mine.  And, it will
handle up to Super A3 (13" x 19").  Three blacks and ABW makes
magnificent B&W prints.

keith z



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Vallejo da
Silva" <mastologia@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> This is a recurrent issue,but as gear is changing all the time...
> 
> Is there a current printer,with more than two black inks (three would
> be ideal)A3+ format,that can be fed with MIS pigment bulk ink and that
> by using the  right driver,will be able to print in color and neutral
> BW(using the black and gray inks only)? Or am I demanding to much? (yet)
> 
> Maybe the R1800 could be used to do that if there was the proper
> driver and the right profiles made with,for example PrintFixPro?
> 
> Best,
> André
>

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