Digital BW, The Print

While I've had all kinds of problems 
printing, this is a new one: I had been 
getting nice neutral B&Ws with my Epson 
2200/MIS Pro color inkset/Cathy's 
Profile/Photoshop6, when, after a few days 
lay-off, the same setup started giving me 
beautiful, uniformly *mint green*, toned 
prints; from Grayscale and RGB  files.

The setup was exactly as it was for making 
the profile and this is not the usual Epson 
green/magenta crossover problem, there is no 
magenta and the shade of green is different.

I checked the setup today and made some 
changes, printing test strips from Gray and 
RGB mode with different Gray color spaces 
assigned; I renamed the old profile and 
reinstalled the original. None of this had 
any effect.

I thought that it might be the new batch of 
Moab Kayenta, but I printed on the back of an 
old sheet that had a properly neutral image 
on it already - same thing. (Kayenta is 
coated for double sided printing.)

Of course, the first thing I did was a nozzle 
check/clean cycle and purge until I got a 
perfect nozzle check. I had not changed or 
added to the ink reservoirs between the good 
and the green prints.

Do profiles go sour? Past the "sell-by" date? 
Of course I'm kidding, but what should I look 
for next?

Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "kolwicz@..."
<kolwicz@...> wrote:
>
> While I've had all kinds of problems 
> printing, this is a new one: I had been 
> getting nice neutral B&Ws with my Epson 
> 2200/MIS Pro color inkset/Cathy's 
> Profile/Photoshop6, when, after a few days 
> lay-off, the same setup started giving me 
> beautiful, uniformly *mint green*, toned 
> prints; from Grayscale and RGB  files.
> 

Frank:

I had a similar problem with a Canon i9900.  Printing beautiful images
for several months and suddenly all became overwhelmingly pink.  Like
you, I checked nozzles, went through several cleaning cycles, used
different papers, and profiles, etc. plus few choice words aimed at
the gods that I sometimes respect.

As chance might have it, I was touted onto CCleaner -a free routine
for removing unused and irrelevant entries in the registry as well as
removing orphaned programs (I believe).  Though I was not chasing the
pink problem when I invoked CCleaner, it apparently cured the problem.

CCleaner is free at www.ccleaner.com.  Can't cost much to try it.  Of
course, if you are enjoying a Mac, CCleaner is irrelevant.

Reinald

Reinald

Did you keep them lightly shaken? Inks can settle and produce prints of
different looks based on ink dilutions. 

 

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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Sudden change in color. . .

 

While I've had all kinds of problems 
printing, this is a new one: I had been 
getting nice neutral B&Ws with my Epson 
2200/MIS Pro color inkset/Cathy's 
Profile/Photoshop6, when, after a few days 
lay-off, the same setup started giving me 
beautiful, uniformly *mint green*, toned 
prints; from Grayscale and RGB files.

The setup was exactly as it was for making 
the profile and this is not the usual Epson 
green/magenta crossover problem, there is no 
magenta and the shade of green is different.

I checked the setup today and made some 
changes, printing test strips from Gray and 
RGB mode with different Gray color spaces 
assigned; I renamed the old profile and 
reinstalled the original. None of this had 
any effect.

I thought that it might be the new batch of 
Moab Kayenta, but I printed on the back of an 
old sheet that had a properly neutral image 
on it already - same thing. (Kayenta is 
coated for double sided printing.)

Of course, the first thing I did was a nozzle 
check/clean cycle and purge until I got a 
perfect nozzle check. I had not changed or 
added to the ink reservoirs between the good 
and the green prints.

Do profiles go sour? Past the "sell-by" date? 
Of course I'm kidding, but what should I look 
for next?

Frank

 



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Frank:

Reinald had a good point, and if you are "enjoying a Mac" as I am, a  
utility such as Apple's Colorsync utility may prove useful. It will  
inspect and repair if necessary, your profiles. If it can't, then you  
will know what to replace. Have you tried printing to different  
papers (and different profiles)?

I have had pink images myself, and that is what I had to do.

Leslie Otterbein

On Apr 16, 2007, at 5:33 PM, xylonic2000 wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "kolwicz@..."
> <kolwicz@...> wrote:
> >
> > While I've had all kinds of problems
> > printing, this is a new one: I had been
> > getting nice neutral B&Ws with my Epson
> > 2200/MIS Pro color inkset/Cathy's
> > Profile/Photoshop6, when, after a few days
> > lay-off, the same setup started giving me
> > beautiful, uniformly *mint green*, toned
> > prints; from Grayscale and RGB files.
> >
>
> Frank:
>
> I had a similar problem with a Canon i9900. Printing beautiful images
> for several months and suddenly all became overwhelmingly pink. Like
> you, I checked nozzles, went through several cleaning cycles, used
> different papers, and profiles, etc. plus few choice words aimed at
> the gods that I sometimes respect.
>
> As chance might have it, I was touted onto CCleaner -a free routine
> for removing unused and irrelevant entries in the registry as well as
> removing orphaned programs (I believe). Though I was not chasing the
> pink problem when I invoked CCleaner, it apparently cured the problem.
>
> CCleaner is free at www.ccleaner.com. Can't cost much to try it. Of
> course, if you are enjoying a Mac, CCleaner is irrelevant.
>
> Reinald
>
> Reinald
>

Seems you've still got a clog... a job for Mr. Windex. 

...IMO there's no such thing as "the usual Epson 
green/magenta crossover problem"  "Sounds more like someone comparing
original film or file (as seen in camera) to inaccurate monitor and
prints that result from attempt to match monitor. 

I rely on Kayenta...better than EEM in every respect. Epson's canned
EEM profile works perfectly with it.

Thanks for the replies.

I've never had to shake 2200/MIS PRO inks and 
I have left the printer idle for as much as a 
month at times with only nozzle check 
problems. I usually only print every couple 
of weeks anyway and had been getting neutral 
B&Ws for more than 6 months.

I use jv16 Power Tools for my registry 
cleaner (PC, of course) and I'll run it as 
soon as I can and test the printer, but I 
have run it in the last month or so and 
usually do so when I do a major clean-up of 
the computer detritus that builds-up like the 
dust rhinos do under my bed.