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Re: Photoshop CS3 Win distortion w/unequal horizontal and veritcal

Re: Photoshop CS3 Win distortion w/unequal horizontal and veritcal

2007-05-20 by Clayton Price

Dear Keith, and others -
While I'm one of the people who agree with a lot of what you are  
writing here, and certainly your
right to post it, don't you think it's time to let this one go?  One  
issue here especially for those of
us who receive these in the digest, is for some reason, an  
unwillingness to trim any posts before
sending them out. You've been as guilty of that as any of the  
others!  It's one thing to read
disagreements on issues, and even somewhat amusing to observe some  
absurd biblical references,
but ridiculous to have to scroll down forever, just to discover a few  
more posts. So aside from
letting a dead horse lie, what say we all get back to the B&W   
PRINTING  business at hand. AND
everyone-  TRIM YOUR POSTS -  Even the oldest and most forgetful of  
us do not need or want to see
the same group of repeated messages ad nausium!  BELOW, SEE WHAT ONE  
POST LOOKS
LIKE IN THE DIGEST FORM, THEM MULTIPLY IT BY FIVE FOR TODAY, AND WHAT  
YOU
HAVE IS A FORUM ON THE VERGE OF PETTY CHAOS.

Clayton Price


 >>
 >> 3b.
Re: Photoshop CS3  Win distortion w/unequal horizontal and veritcal
Posted by: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" editor@...    
povimage
Sat May 19, 2007 9:51 am (PST)

1) I haven't reposted or rehashed a single issue.

2) It got on the nerves of several individuals as soon as it was first
posted. They either don't care or they would prefer not to know. Too
bad. That doesn't give them the right to try and shut down the flow of
information. If it did, anyone could simply complain whenever a topic
they don't want to hear about comes up (as Gary Brown has tended to do
for the last 18 months) and people will shut up. I won't.

dealy663 wrote:
 > Krebs,
 >
 > It was ok to post your complaints the first time, but your continued
 > reposting and rehashing the same issue obviously is getting on
 > people's nerves. Please just give it a rest. I'm just as sick of  
it as
 > everyone else is.
 >
 > This is one of the few forums that I participate in that doesn't  
often
 > devolve into stick throwing and name calling. Your self proclaimed
 > bona fides are meaningless when taken in context with your  
behavior on
 > this list.
 >
 > A simple suggestion, don't reply to this post, you've already  
tried to
 > explain yourself multiple times. Once more isn't going to help.
 >
 > Derek
 >
 > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V.
 > Image Service" <editor@...> wrote:
 >
 >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V.
 >>> Image Service" <editor@> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>> Ok, this is a PURE printing issue and reportedly ONLY under  
Windows.
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>> Actually, this is a PURE Adobe issue, which you have posted on
 >>> multiple non-Adobe specific message boards...
 >>>
 >>> Recently some of the Digital B&W and Epson Printer digests have had
 >>> over 66% of their content related to CS3-specific issues.
 >>>
 >>>
 >> 1) Well that's interesting. Because , since I posted my first post
 >> on this list regarding the issue, on May 12, there have been  
exactly 16
 >> posts from me out of 131 total posts onlist during the same period.
 >> Doing the math, that comes out to approximately 12%.
 >>
 >> 2) I set up the EPSON list in 2000 and spend time running it EVERY
 >> day, you.. um... don't... I spend time every day moderating:  
approving
 >> posts, approving members, etc. That's while teaching and taking
 >> courses. Got any idea how much dedication it takes BY MYSELF to deal
 >> for 7 years with lists that now total over 10,000 subscribers? How
 >> about monitoring a few hundred posts a day? Ask the moderators here
 >>
 > how
 >
 >> much time it takes and how you always have to make sure someone
 >> checks... even on vacation...
 >>
 >> .and you know what? I'm the ONLY moderator of those groups  
(others have
 >> dropped the ball repeatedly), that means most of the time, I  
don't have
 >> the leisure to post., meaning I only post when I think it's  
necessary
 >> to get some news out there.
 >>
 >> I don't get free ink from EPSON or the other printer  
manufacturers. I
 >> don't get printer deals from anyone. I don't get a dime from
 >>
 > advertising
 >
 >> or YAHOO! I get virtually NOTHING for running those lists and yet I
 >> give my time freely. (My lawyer thinks I should have used the  
lists to
 >> make money long ago, but I have refused, because it isn't in the  
spirit
 >> of why and how the groups were set up.)
 >>
 >> Bottomline? As unfair as it may sound, that means, at the end of the
 >> day, I decide what content gets posted there and what doesn't. I  
also
 >> decide who is allowed to post there, and under what conditions. In
 >>
 > fact,
 >
 >> I generally leave people free to post until/unless they engage in
 >> personal attacks. If they do, they go.
 >>
 >> If you don't like the EPSON list content, you are free to leave that
 >> list. As for this list, it is moderated by others and B&W focusses,
 >> therefore I have consciously not posted a good deal of what has been
 >> posted over on the EPSON list regarding CS3.
 >>
 >>
 >>> Combine
 >>> that with getting your identical post multiple times from multiple
 >>> user groups, we non-CS3 users are spending a lot of time filtering
 >>> through non-B&W printing issues that do not apply to us. The  
majority
 >>> of us probably don't use CS3, but rather CS2 or earlier, Elements,
 >>> PWP, or something else.
 >>>
 >>>
 >> That's the reality of having multiple subscriptions. How do you  
think I
 >> deal with that when running four printer lists and moderating a  
fifth?
 >>
 >>
 >>> May I suggest you're stretching beyond proper
 >>> limits what is appropriate to post on this very topic-specific  
board?
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >> You may suggest it and I appreciate the tone, but Photoshop is still
 >>
 > the
 >
 >> pre-eminent image editing program out there. In fact, without it,  
B&W
 >> digital printing would not be where it is today. Again, feel free to
 >>
 > ask
 >
 >> the REAL experts like Roark, Clayton or CD Tobie.
 >>
 >>
 >>> Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >> ..and appreciated. Keep in mind that chaff is part of why I  
generally
 >> haven't responded to attacks on my posts: if for no other reason
 >>
 > than to
 >
 >> keep posts that have a low signal to noise ratio down.
 >>
 >> Before throwing rocks at the messenger next time (and I don't  
mean you
 >> specifically), it would be nice for people to consider what the
 >> messenger has given the community at no cost. Adobe and the printer
 >> manufacturers get paid for what they do. I do it because I give a  
damn
 >> about the user community. Maybe that's a ridiculously dated and
 >> benighted concept in this day of commodification of everything right
 >> down to forehead space for advertising, but it's an idea many once
 >>
 > shared.
 >
 >>
 >> Keith Krebs
 >>
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other  
resources as they are often being updated.
 >
 > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
 >
 > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you  
wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by  
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 >
 > Please follow these basic guidelines:
 > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages  
to keep them short.
 > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or  
flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed  
from the membership without notice.
 > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of  
digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may  
be removed from the membership.
 > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules  
and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the  
group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines"  
in the Files section:
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 >
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CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,  
DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE  
LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT  
YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES),  
RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW,  
THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF  
YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD  
PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER  
MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >

-- 

Keith Krebs


"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
Publications), at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together
guys"

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Re: Photoshop CS3 Win distortion w/unequal horizontal and veritcal

2007-05-20 by mcolby

Group moderator, please, please please step in stop the repition of 
the off point posts by the off point poster.  He's made his point.  
Great, now lets start talking about B&W printing again.

As for the off-point poster, if everyone raises their hand and 
acknowledges your point or points re: CS3 can you accept that please 
and lets get to topic?

thanks



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Clayton Price 
<clay@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Keith, and others -
> While I'm one of the people who agree with a lot of what you are  
> writing here, and certainly your
> right to post it, don't you think it's time to let this one go?  
One  
> issue here especially for those of
> us who receive these in the digest, is for some reason, an  
> unwillingness to trim any posts before
> sending them out. You've been as guilty of that as any of the  
> others!  It's one thing to read
> disagreements on issues, and even somewhat amusing to observe some  
> absurd biblical references,
> but ridiculous to have to scroll down forever, just to discover a 
few  
> more posts. So aside from
> letting a dead horse lie, what say we all get back to the B&W   
> PRINTING  business at hand. AND
> everyone-  TRIM YOUR POSTS -  Even the oldest and most forgetful 
of  
> us do not need or want to see
> the same group of repeated messages ad nausium!  BELOW, SEE WHAT 
ONE  
> POST LOOKS
> LIKE IN THE DIGEST FORM, THEM MULTIPLY IT BY FIVE FOR TODAY, AND 
WHAT  
> YOU
> HAVE IS A FORUM ON THE VERGE OF PETTY CHAOS.
> 
> Clayton Price
> 
> 
>  >>
>  >> 3b.
> Re: Photoshop CS3  Win distortion w/unequal horizontal and veritcal
> Posted by: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" editor@...    
> povimage
> Sat May 19, 2007 9:51 am (PST)
> 
> 1) I haven't reposted or rehashed a single issue.
> 
> 2) It got on the nerves of several individuals as soon as it was 
first
> posted. They either don't care or they would prefer not to know. Too
> bad. That doesn't give them the right to try and shut down the flow 
of
> information. If it did, anyone could simply complain whenever a 
topic
> they don't want to hear about comes up (as Gary Brown has tended to 
do
> for the last 18 months) and people will shut up. I won't.
> 
> dealy663 wrote:
>  > Krebs,
>  >
>  > It was ok to post your complaints the first time, but your 
continued
>  > reposting and rehashing the same issue obviously is getting on
>  > people's nerves. Please just give it a rest. I'm just as sick 
of  
> it as
>  > everyone else is.
>  >
>  > This is one of the few forums that I participate in that 
doesn't  
> often
>  > devolve into stick throwing and name calling. Your self 
proclaimed
>  > bona fides are meaningless when taken in context with your  
> behavior on
>  > this list.
>  >
>  > A simple suggestion, don't reply to this post, you've already  
> tried to
>  > explain yourself multiple times. Once more isn't going to help.
>  >
>  > Derek
>  >
>  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor 
P.O.V.
>  > Image Service" <editor@> wrote:
>  >
>  >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor 
P.O.V.
>  >>> Image Service" <editor@> wrote:
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>> Ok, this is a PURE printing issue and reportedly ONLY under  
> Windows.
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>>>
>  >>> Actually, this is a PURE Adobe issue, which you have posted on
>  >>> multiple non-Adobe specific message boards...
>  >>>
>  >>> Recently some of the Digital B&W and Epson Printer digests 
have had
>  >>> over 66% of their content related to CS3-specific issues.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> 1) Well that's interesting. Because , since I posted my first 
post
>  >> on this list regarding the issue, on May 12, there have been  
> exactly 16
>  >> posts from me out of 131 total posts onlist during the same 
period.
>  >> Doing the math, that comes out to approximately 12%.
>  >>
>  >> 2) I set up the EPSON list in 2000 and spend time running it 
EVERY
>  >> day, you.. um... don't... I spend time every day moderating:  
> approving
>  >> posts, approving members, etc. That's while teaching and taking
>  >> courses. Got any idea how much dedication it takes BY MYSELF to 
deal
>  >> for 7 years with lists that now total over 10,000 subscribers? 
How
>  >> about monitoring a few hundred posts a day? Ask the moderators 
here
>  >>
>  > how
>  >
>  >> much time it takes and how you always have to make sure someone
>  >> checks... even on vacation...
>  >>
>  >> .and you know what? I'm the ONLY moderator of those groups  
> (others have
>  >> dropped the ball repeatedly), that means most of the time, I  
> don't have
>  >> the leisure to post., meaning I only post when I think it's  
> necessary
>  >> to get some news out there.
>  >>
>  >> I don't get free ink from EPSON or the other printer  
> manufacturers. I
>  >> don't get printer deals from anyone. I don't get a dime from
>  >>
>  > advertising
>  >
>  >> or YAHOO! I get virtually NOTHING for running those lists and 
yet I
>  >> give my time freely. (My lawyer thinks I should have used the  
> lists to
>  >> make money long ago, but I have refused, because it isn't in 
the  
> spirit
>  >> of why and how the groups were set up.)
>  >>
>  >> Bottomline? As unfair as it may sound, that means, at the end 
of the
>  >> day, I decide what content gets posted there and what doesn't. 
I  
> also
>  >> decide who is allowed to post there, and under what conditions. 
In
>  >>
>  > fact,
>  >
>  >> I generally leave people free to post until/unless they engage 
in
>  >> personal attacks. If they do, they go.
>  >>
>  >> If you don't like the EPSON list content, you are free to leave 
that
>  >> list. As for this list, it is moderated by others and B&W 
focusses,
>  >> therefore I have consciously not posted a good deal of what has 
been
>  >> posted over on the EPSON list regarding CS3.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> Combine
>  >>> that with getting your identical post multiple times from 
multiple
>  >>> user groups, we non-CS3 users are spending a lot of time 
filtering
>  >>> through non-B&W printing issues that do not apply to us. The  
> majority
>  >>> of us probably don't use CS3, but rather CS2 or earlier, 
Elements,
>  >>> PWP, or something else.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> That's the reality of having multiple subscriptions. How do 
you  
> think I
>  >> deal with that when running four printer lists and moderating 
a  
> fifth?
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> May I suggest you're stretching beyond proper
>  >>> limits what is appropriate to post on this very topic-
specific  
> board?
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> You may suggest it and I appreciate the tone, but Photoshop is 
still
>  >>
>  > the
>  >
>  >> pre-eminent image editing program out there. In fact, without 
it,  
> B&W
>  >> digital printing would not be where it is today. Again, feel 
free to
>  >>
>  > ask
>  >
>  >> the REAL experts like Roark, Clayton or CD Tobie.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> ..and appreciated. Keep in mind that chaff is part of why I  
> generally
>  >> haven't responded to attacks on my posts: if for no other reason
>  >>
>  > than to
>  >
>  >> keep posts that have a low signal to noise ratio down.
>  >>
>  >> Before throwing rocks at the messenger next time (and I don't  
> mean you
>  >> specifically), it would be nice for people to consider what the
>  >> messenger has given the community at no cost. Adobe and the 
printer
>  >> manufacturers get paid for what they do. I do it because I give 
a  
> damn
>  >> about the user community. Maybe that's a ridiculously dated and
>  >> benighted concept in this day of commodification of everything 
right
>  >> down to forehead space for advertising, but it's an idea many 
once
>  >>
>  > shared.
>  >
>  >>
>  >> Keith Krebs
>  >>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other  
> resources as they are often being updated.
>  >
>  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>  >
>  > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you  
> wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by  
> visiting this same page.
>  >
>  > Please follow these basic guidelines:
>  > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier 
messages  
> to keep them short.
>  > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or  
> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed  
> from the membership without notice.
>  > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of  
> digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts 
may  
> be removed from the membership.
>  > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group 
rules  
> and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the  
> group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and 
Guidelines"  
> in the Files section:
>  > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>  >
>  > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, 
THE  
> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE  
> "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP 
SHALL  
> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, 
SPECIAL,  
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,  
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER 
INTANGIBLE  
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE 
PRINT  
> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES),  
> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL 
BW,  
> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION 
OF  
> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY 
THIRD  
> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER  
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>  >
>  > Yahoo! Groups Links
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
> 
> -- 
> 
> Keith Krebs
> 
> 
> "Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer
> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
> Publications), at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
> and the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User Community at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
> "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks 
together
> guys"
> 
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