Any thoughts on the Epson R1800 vs. R2400
2007-05-28 by Patrick
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2007-05-28 by Patrick
Newbie here. I'm looking for a good black and white printer. Any thoughts on the captioned printers. I now use a Canon i9900 which is bad, very bad, on black and whites. Thanks, patrick
2007-05-28 by Clayton Jones
Hello Patrick, >Newbie here. I'm looking for a good black and white printer. Any >thoughts on the captioned printers. I now use a Canon i9900 which is >bad, very bad, on black and whites. The 2400, being a K3 ink printer with ABW mode, will do excellent BW as is, without need for extra RIP software. The 1800 requires a RIP to do good BW. The 2400/K3/ABW mode mixes color inks, including Yellow, with 3 grays to get BW tones. There are some advantages to using the K3 inks, especially when using RC type glossy papers or the new fiber type glossy papers. The 1800 can be used several ways, all RIP controlled: 1) With gray inks toned with color inks, like the 2400 but without the yellow (and not with K3 inks). 2) With toned grayscale inks, which use color pigments blended in with them as toners 3) Due to Paul Roark's recent work there is another option of using a 3-channel Black Only technique (BO3). All of the above can produce beautiful gallery quality prints, and each has it's pros and cons. None can be said to be the best. It's just a matter of finding the mix of hardware, software, effort, complexity and technical involvement which suits you best. I know this doesn't get into specifics, but I hope it will a helpful overview. Regards, Clayton Info on black and white digital printing at http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
2007-05-28 by Patrick
Thanks Clayton, very helpful. patrick -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" <cj@...> wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > > >Newbie here. I'm looking for a good black and white printer. Any > >thoughts on the captioned printers. I now use a Canon i9900 which is > >bad, very bad, on black and whites. > > The 2400, being a K3 ink printer with ABW mode, will do excellent BW > as is, without need for extra RIP software. The 1800 requires a RIP > to do good BW. The 2400/K3/ABW mode mixes color inks, including > Yellow, with 3 grays to get BW tones. There are some advantages to > using the K3 inks, especially when using RC type glossy papers or the > new fiber type glossy papers. > > The 1800 can be used several ways, all RIP controlled: > 1) With gray inks toned with color inks, like the 2400 but without the > yellow (and not with K3 inks). > 2) With toned grayscale inks, which use color pigments blended in with > them as toners > 3) Due to Paul Roark's recent work there is another option of using a
> 3-channel Black Only technique (BO3). > > All of the above can produce beautiful gallery quality prints, and > each has it's pros and cons. None can be said to be the best. It's > just a matter of finding the mix of hardware, software, effort, > complexity and technical involvement which suits you best. > > I know this doesn't get into specifics, but I hope it will a helpful > overview. > > Regards, > Clayton > > > Info on black and white digital printing at > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm >