Digital BW, The Print

Hello,

I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA through the regular sheet 
feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll Required".  I would hit 
"ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.

I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to CS3, and to an updated 
Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page set-up dialogue, I can't choose 
VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a manual-roll option is chosen 
in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to print through the regular 
sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've never done, and don't want to 
do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I could not access "Photo RPM", now 
I can.)

Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the regular sheet feeder in my new 
system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice, I use a lot of Premier Matte 
210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per ITSupplies website).

Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been lurking for a while.

Lauri

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertsonlauri" 
<laurirobertson@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA through the regular 
sheet 
> feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll Required".  I would 
hit 
> "ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.
> 
> I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to CS3, and to an 
updated 
> Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page set-up dialogue, I can't 
choose 
> VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a manual-roll option is 
chosen 
> in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to print through the regular 
> sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've never done, and don't 
want to 
> do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I could not access "Photo RPM", 
now 
> I can.)
> 
> Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the regular sheet feeder in 
my new 
> system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice, I use a lot of Premier 
Matte 

> 210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per ITSupplies website).
> 
> Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been lurking for a while.
> 
> Lauri
>

I'd like to use this option, too, because Clayton Jones recommends it as the best setting 
for precise B&W.

"Manual Roll" is a pain and you can not run anything smaller than 8.5 x 11.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertsonlauri" 
<laurirobertson@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA through the regular 
sheet 
> feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll Required".  I would 
hit 
> "ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.
> 
> I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to CS3, and to an 
updated 
> Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page set-up dialogue, I can't 
choose 
> VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a manual-roll option is 
chosen 
> in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to print through the regular 
> sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've never done, and don't 
want to 
> do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I could not access "Photo RPM", 
now 
> I can.)
> 
> Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the regular sheet feeder in 
my new 
> system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice, I use a lot of Premier 
Matte 

> 210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per ITSupplies website).
> 
> Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been lurking for a while.
> 
> Lauri
>

On 7/20/07 2:27 PM, "robertsonlauri" <laurirobertson@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  In order to use VFA, Epson says you must use the Single Sheet Feeder, see
> pages 16-19 in the manual.  That¹s the only way I¹ve been able to use VFA.
> Why avoid it?
> 
> Harry
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA through the
> regular sheet 
> feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll Required".
> I would hit 
> "ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.
> 
> I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to CS3, and to
> an updated 
> Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page set-up dialogue,
> I can't choose 
> VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a manual-roll
> option is chosen 
> in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to print through
> the regular 
> sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've never done, and
> don't want to 
> do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I could not
> access "Photo RPM", now
> I can.)
> 
> Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the regular sheet
> feeder in my new 
> system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice, I use a lot
> of Premier Matte 
> 210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per ITSupplies
> website).
> 
> Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been lurking for a
> while.
> 
> Lauri  
> 


-- 

Harry F. Lockwood




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I used a PC, but I am considering to purchase a mac next time I
upgrade my hardware. For thick papers, I normally use the rear feeder.
Sometimes, however, a thin paper uses ticker paper profiles, like for
example Premier Premium Matte uses epson ultrasmooth's. In such cases
 you need to use the sheet feeder.  

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Harry Lockwood
<hflockwood@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/20/07 2:27 PM, "robertsonlauri" <laurirobertson@...> wrote:
> 
> >  
> >  
> >  In order to use VFA, Epson says you must use the Single Sheet
Feeder, see
> > pages 16-19 in the manual.  That¹s the only way I¹ve been able to
use VFA.
> > Why avoid it?
> > 
> > Harry
> > 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA
through the
> > regular sheet 
> > feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll
Required".
> > I would hit 
> > "ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.
> > 
> > I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to
CS3, and to
> > an updated 
> > Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page
set-up dialogue,
> > I can't choose 
> > VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a
manual-roll
> > option is chosen 
> > in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to
print through
> > the regular 
> > sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've
never done, and
> > don't want to 
> > do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I
could not
> > access "Photo RPM", now
> > I can.)
> > 
> > Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the
regular sheet
> > feeder in my new 
> > system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice,
I use a lot
> > of Premier Matte 
> > 210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per
ITSupplies
> > website).
> > 
> > Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been
lurking for a

> > while.
> > 
> > Lauri  
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Harry F. Lockwood
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

have you tried to run a 4x6 through your 2400 using "maual roll"?


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Harry Lockwood <hflockwood@...> 


> > Why avoid it?
>

Kevin,

No, I haven¹t, but I¹ll give it a try as soon as I get some replacement
cartridges shipped to me on Tuesday.
But I suspect I¹m going to learn something new.  I¹ll report back.

Harry


On 7/20/07 4:43 PM, "Kevin" <vinket@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> have you tried to run a 4x6 through your 2400 using "maual roll"?
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , Harry Lockwood
> <hflockwood@...> 
> 
>>> > > Why avoid it?
>> > 
> 

-- 

Harry F. Lockwood




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Hi Harry and Kevin,

Thanks for responding to my post.
I want to avoid the rear feeder for convenience--my printer's in a tight space, and I'd have to 
keep moving it.  Also, I keep hearing horror stories about rear feeder feeding problems.  And 
per Kevin's responses--I think Clayton Jones uses "ignore" manual/roll setting on the older 
driver.  And again, wanting to use USFA settings for Premier Matte 210 gms.
But it sounds like I may not have a choice, better go the attic and look for the rear feeder 
tray!

Lauri

On Jul 22, 2007, at 9:55 AM, robertsonlauri wrote:

> [snip] I want to avoid the rear feeder for convenience--my  
> printer's in a tight space, and I'd have to keep moving it. [snip]

I had too little space for my printers too, Lauri, until I added a  
cart from Anthro.com and put my 200 and my 2400, backed up to each  
other, on its top shelf. There isn't room for the cart all the time  
either, but it's on the optional larger casters and easily rolls away  
from my corner-unit workstation to another corner where it isn't in  
the way. When I'm ready to print, I roll it up the workstation  
temporarily and connect via USB.

This arrangement wouldn't work, at least not very well, for printing  
from the rear feeder on the 2400, but only because I've been storing  
printing supplies on the cart's bottom shelf. The 200 could go down  
there, and the 2400 could then be fed from any direction on top. Or  
the 2400 could go on the bottom, so you could have a 3800 on top.

Several configurations are possible, but of course none of them work  
unless you have some place you're willing to keep the cart when  
you're not printing. However, it could be pretty far away if you can  
print wirelessly. I haven't done much homework on that, but I would  
rather than give up a paper I really wanted to use.
--
Sam

Lauri,

I can¹t contribute further just yet because I suddenly need to replace one
of the cartridges on my 2400, and I had to order some.  Delivery expected on
Tuesday.
I haven¹t used VFA in some time, so my recollection may be faulty, but I
believe I used the drop-down tray intended for thick papers.  I¹ll get on
this as soon as the new cartridges are here.
Kevin¹s point is that there is a problem with 4x6 printing of VFA.  I¹ll get
to that as well, but I suspect I¹ll merely confirm his observation.

Harry


On 7/22/07 12:55 PM, "robertsonlauri" <laurirobertson@...> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> Hi Harry and Kevin,
> 
> Thanks for responding to my post.
> I want to avoid the rear feeder for convenience--my printer's in a tight
> space, and I'd have to
> keep moving it.  Also, I keep hearing horror stories about rear feeder feeding
> problems.  And 
> per Kevin's responses--I think Clayton Jones uses "ignore" manual/roll setting
> on the older 
> driver.  And again, wanting to use USFA settings for Premier Matte 210 gms.
> But it sounds like I may not have a choice, better go the attic and look for
> the rear feeder 
> tray!
> 
> Lauri
> 
> 


-- 

Harry F. Lockwood




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Try selecting another paper, Epson Enhanced Matte, or whatever it is 
being called these days.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "robertsonlauri" 
<laurirobertson@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> I have been printing merrily for 2 years on my Epson R2400 on VFA 
through the regular sheet 
> feeder--After choosing VFA, a warning would come up, "Manual-Roll 
Required".  I would hit 
> "ignore", and print, rarely having a misfeed.
> 
> I've just upgraded my system, from a pc to a Mac, from PS CS2 to 
CS3, and to an updated 
> Epson driver.  Now, if the sheet feeder is chosen in the page set-
up dialogue, I can't choose 
> VFA (or USFA or Watercolor) because they are greyed-out.  If a 
manual-roll option is chosen 
> in the page set-up, I can choose VFA, but am no longer able to 
print through the regular 
> sheet feeder--apparently must use the rear feeder, which I've never 
done, and don't want to 
> do if I can avoid it.  (Parenthetically, with the old system, I 
could not access "Photo RPM", now 
> I can.)
> 
> Question--is there a way to keep printing on VFA through the 
regular sheet feeder in my new 
> system?  It's also an issue because on Paul Roark's great advice, I 
use a lot of Premier Matte 
> 210 gms for which USFA paper type and profiles are used (per 
ITSupplies website).
> 
> Thanks, and thanks for all the great teaching on this form--been 
lurking for a while.

> 
> Lauri
>

Can anyone recommend a paper to proof Museo silver rag?  (Similar 
characteristics - lower cost)

Thanks  ..Bob

Bob, it's going to be hard to find a good match among the inexpensive  
papers, but the new one I mentioned a couple posts back, the Red River 
UltraPro Satin 2.0, MIGHT work, it being warm-ish and with a comparable 
Dmax, at least with Epson inks. A slight adjustment curve might bridge 
the gap enough to make it useable?  

Steve Karafyllakis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Bob Builder 
<bob@...> wrote:

>
> Can anyone recommend a paper to proof Museo silver rag?  (Similar 
> characteristics - lower cost)
> 
> Thanks  ..Bob
>

Shilesh, your simple solution works perfectly!--printing on VFA through the regular sheet 
feeder, with VFA profiles, but EEM as the paper choice.  Thanks for everyone's input.

Bob -

I have had success using what used to be called Epson Professional
Glossy Paper, aka Glossy Paper Photo Weight. The SKU code was S041388.
Unfortunately it is no longer made. I just happen to have quite a lot
of it. I think this product may have morphed into Epson Proofing Paper
Commercial Semimatte, but I can't confirm that for certain since I
haven't seen it in person.

Dirk



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Bob Builder
<bob@...> wrote:

>
> Can anyone recommend a paper to proof Museo silver rag?  (Similar 
> characteristics - lower cost)
> 
> Thanks  ..Bob
>

I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in the position of having to scan my b&w film
negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for printing. (The time/quantity issues are
way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there some really good resources that do this
reasonably?
Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).

-Lew S

I'd like to scan my bw film negs & correct them in Photoshop, but send them out for inkjet printing. Are there
good resources out there that would do a really good job at this?
TIA
-Lew

Were are you located? What size negs?

There used to be several great shop in San Francisco and one shop in  
Santa Rosa California.

Alan

On Jul 24, 2007, at 4:24 PM, Lew wrote:

> I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in  
> the position of having to scan my b&w film
> negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for  
> printing. (The time/quantity issues are
> way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there  
> some really good resources that do this
> reasonably?
> Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).
>
> -Lew S

Hi Lew-

I am in Boston, I can drum scan your negs, and/or do your prints for you.
There are many others in various cities I can recommend.

-- 
Regards,

Bill Morse
Wm. Morse Editions

(617) 429-3298

On 7/24/07, Lew <lew@...> wrote:
>
>   I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in the
> position of having to scan my b&w film
> negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for
> printing. (The time/quantity issues are
> way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there some
> really good resources that do this
> reasonably?
> Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).
>
> -Lew S
>
>  
>


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Lew" <lew@...>
wrote:
>
> I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in
the position of having to scan my b&w film
> negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for
printing. (The time/quantity issues are
> way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there
some really good resources that do this
> reasonably?
> Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).
> 
> -Lew S
>
Lew, you didn't say where you live or where you want the work done. 
Can't help with resources unless we know.

Ok. I'm in Brooklyn, NY, and, unfortunately, cost is an issue. I'd do the scanning myself. Thanks, group! 

-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of sanhodo
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 4:35 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Scan & outsource prints

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Lew" <lew@...>
wrote:
>
> I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in
the position of having to scan my b&w film
> negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for
printing. (The time/quantity issues are
> way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there
some really good resources that do this
> reasonably?
> Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).
> 
> -Lew S
>
Lew, you didn't say where you live or where you want the work done. 
Can't help with resources unless we know.



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Any suggestions in the UK?

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Morse 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Scan & outsource prints


  Hi Lew-

  I am in Boston, I can drum scan your negs, and/or do your prints for you.
  There are many others in various cities I can recommend.

  -- 
  Regards,

  Bill Morse
  Wm. Morse Editions

  (617) 429-3298

  On 7/24/07, Lew <lew@...> wrote:
  >
  > I realize this is not in the spirit of this group, but I may be in the
  > position of having to scan my b&w film
  > negatives, process the scans in Photoshop & then email them out for
  > printing. (The time/quantity issues are
  > way beyond my capabilities). How practical is this, and are there some
  > really good resources that do this
  > reasonably?
  > Thanks (& don't be too hard on me).
  >
  > -Lew S
  >
  > 
  >

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