Digital BW, The Print

I have read a few laments regarding inconsistencies in the r1800, and I am considering 
purchasing one. Do you all find it is typically the refurbished units, brand new, or doesn't 
it matter? In a nutshell, just what do you think it's biggest problems are, and finally, have 
you found the pros to outweigh it's cons......or not.

I'm mainly going to use it for BO3.

Anyone?

Sarah

Hello Sarah,

For what it's worth I did purchase mine brand new from an authorized
dealer with big volume. So it might be a late production model. I
don't know for sure.

After having a few issues with banding, I finally learned to calibrate
the print heads correctly and since then, perfect BO3 (3MK) prints.
Amazing I should say. No paper feed issues either even with 350gsm.

There is the R1900 coming out in November. You might want to wait for
this one to come out? Or the 1400 I know Paul Roark will be testing
soon for 3MK printing that might be a good choice too.

Denis Bouchard


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Sarah Renkes"
<sagaface@...> wrote:
>
> I have read a few laments regarding inconsistencies in the r1800,
and I am considering 
> purchasing one. Do you all find it is typically the refurbished
units, brand new, or doesn't 
> it matter? In a nutshell, just what do you think it's biggest
problems are, and finally, have 

> you found the pros to outweigh it's cons......or not.
> 
> I'm mainly going to use it for BO3.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> Sarah
>

sarah, 

if you get anything about this printer it's that it doesn't reproduce shadows well. i can't speak
about BO3, but the r1800 uses an inferior algorithm to the 3800 (and from what i've read, the
r2400) in it's method of rendering dot coverage in shadow detail. i found the 1800 interpolated
large expanses of shadow and even some mid-tones into amorphous blobs, lacking smooth, realistic
gradients. some people see it right away, others don't, and i suppose it depends upon your style
of photography and printing requirements. i noticed it right away but several others only noticed
it only after i placed the image on a light table. but once u notice it, it the blobs don't go
away. obviously, the determining factor is your own eye, your own needs vs. budget, and the
expectations of your clients. i also found the color accuracy of my particular copy markedly off,
most apparent by the rendering of shadowy flesh tones in oranegy hues. epson claimed this was a
defect and took back the printer. ithe 3800, otoh, matched my expectations right out of the box
and is superior in every regard but sharpness: the r1800 clearly prints w/ smaller dots. however,
this trade-off doesn't win over color accuracy, imo.

tom

 
--- Sarah Renkes <sagaface@...> wrote:

> I have read a few laments regarding inconsistencies in the r1800, and I am considering 
> purchasing one. Do you all find it is typically the refurbished units, brand new, or doesn't 
> it matter? In a nutshell, just what do you think it's biggest problems are, and finally, have 
> you found the pros to outweigh it's cons......or not.
> 
> I'm mainly going to use it for BO3.
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> Sarah
> 
> 


       
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Dennis;

Mind describing to the group how you calibrated the printheads to get 
rid of the banding? This could be very useful info!

Steve Karafyllakis

> 
> After having a few issues with banding, I finally learned to calibrate
> the print heads correctly and since then, perfect BO3 (3MK) prints.
> Amazing I should say. No paper feed issues either even with 350gsm.
>

Steve,

I made a typo in my post. I was thinking "printhead alignment" and
wrote "calibrated" instead.

I am sure all of you know how to align the printhead using the Epson
utility. :)

I whish I had discovered something new but it's not the case. :(

Sorry for this mistake.

Denis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:

>
> Dennis;
> 
> Mind describing to the group how you calibrated the printheads to get 
> rid of the banding? This could be very useful info!
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> 
> > 
> > After having a few issues with banding, I finally learned to calibrate
> > the print heads correctly and since then, perfect BO3 (3MK) prints.
> > Amazing I should say. No paper feed issues either even with 350gsm.
> >
>

Apologies, Dennis, I didn't mean to sound sarcastic; I downloaded the 
epson adjustment program a couple nights ago, and have been looking 
it over with great trepidation, wondering if I have the nerve to 
actually try making some of the available adjustments. For a minute 
there, I thought perhaps you had done so, and might be able to report 
on it.

Steve Karafyllakis


DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "the_des_bois" 
<thedesbois@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
> 
> I made a typo in my post. I was thinking "printhead alignment" and
> wrote "calibrated" instead.
> 
> I am sure all of you know how to align the printhead using the Epson
> utility. :)
> 
> I whish I had discovered something new but it's not the case. :(
> 
> Sorry for this mistake.
> 
> Denis
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > Dennis;
> > 
> > Mind describing to the group how you calibrated the printheads to 
get 
> > rid of the banding? This could be very useful info!
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > After having a few issues with banding, I finally learned to 
calibrate
> > > the print heads correctly and since then, perfect BO3 (3MK) 
prints.
> > > Amazing I should say. No paper feed issues either even with 
350gsm.

> > >
> >
>