Digital BW, The Print

Some time ago, a year or two, there was some discussion about an Epson 
8½ X 11 paper that was an extremely archival paper but was too thin 
(basically a typing paper) to be of use for image printing.

Does anyone remember what paper that is?

I can't find it in searches.

Thanks loads.

Jules

Hi Jules,

I believe you are referring to my post to Paul Roark.

The paper is Epson Premium Bright White Paper.

It was rated at 400 yrs (printed w/R800) in dark storage by Wilhelm.

I tnow goes under a new name.

See links:

 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-14342&category=Paper%20&%
20Media

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html

Hope this help,
Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
<lulalake_1999@...> wrote:
>
> Some time ago, a year or two, there was some discussion about an 
Epson 

> 8½ X 11 paper that was an extremely archival paper but was too thin 
> (basically a typing paper) to be of use for image printing.
> 
> Does anyone remember what paper that is?
> 
> I can't find it in searches.
> 
> Thanks loads.
> 
> Jules
>

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "scott_now_coming" 
<scott_now_coming@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jules,
> 
> I believe you are referring to my post to Paul Roark.
> 
> The paper is Epson Premium Bright White Paper.
> 
> It was rated at 400 yrs (printed w/R800) in dark storage by Wilhelm.
> 
> I tnow goes under a new name.
> 
> See links:
> 
>  http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?
> BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-14342&category=Paper%20&%
> 20Media
> 
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html
> 
> Hope this help,
> Scott

Scott . . Wow, BINGO!

Thanks so much. I need to do some text along with photo prints and I 
wanted to find a paper that's not going to go brown before the prints.

Exactly what I was looking for

Thanks again

Jules

Jules,

>> The paper is Epson Premium Bright White Paper.
> 
>> It was rated at 400 yrs (printed w/R800) in dark storage by Wilhelm.

>... I need to do some text along with photo prints and 
>I wanted to find a paper that's not going to go brown before the prints.

The Epson Bright White plain paper has OBAs in it.  They will fade
relatively quickly and giving the impression that the paper is yellowing.
I'm not sure what the paper tone will be after they've faded away.  An
un-brightened -- no OBA -- paper like Epson Premier Art (205) Scrapbook
(about $0.65 per page at Atlex.com) will start out a bit creamier, but it'll
not yellow at all.  Epson claims this is their most archival paper.  

In the Wilhelm tests where he says, "More than" X years, it may be that the
apparently higher rated bright white plain paper has just been tested for a
longer period due to, for example, the need to satisfy some large
archivally-sensitive buyer (like a government purchasing office -- just
speculation). 

Paul

> 
> The Epson Bright White plain paper has OBAs in it.  They will fade
> relatively quickly and giving the impression that the paper is 
yellowing.
> I'm not sure what the paper tone will be after they've faded away.  
An
> un-brightened -- no OBA -- paper like Epson Premier Art (205) 
Scrapbook
> (about $0.65 per page at Atlex.com) will start out a bit creamier, 
but it'll
> not yellow at all.  Epson claims this is their most archival 
paper.  
> 
> In the Wilhelm tests where he says, "More than" X years, it may be 
that the
> apparently higher rated bright white plain paper has just been 
tested for a
> longer period due to, for example, the need to satisfy some large
> archivally-sensitive buyer (like a government purchasing office -- 
just
> speculation). 
> 
> Paul

Paul,

Thanks much for the thoughts. I'm doing (it's done actually) a 
calendar through Lulu for my new IR group, various photographers, and 
am very pleased with the results . . however . . Lulu doesn't print a 
back page so I need to print a sheet with a who-done-what and glue it 
on.

I found some acid free adhesive and am trying to come somewhere near 
the color, slightly bluish white, of the paper stock so I'm 
considering Epson Watercolor paper, and the scrapbook paper also.

It will pump the price of the calendar but as long as I break even 
it'll be OK as this is personally a learning project, and a pretty 
fun one at that.

Thanks again

Jules

Paul,

Sounds like a nice project. I'd like to get the link to buy one, if it
is available to the public. 

Thanks,

Denis Bouchard

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999"
<lulalake_1999@...> wrote:

>
> 
> > 
> > The Epson Bright White plain paper has OBAs in it.  They will fade
> > relatively quickly and giving the impression that the paper is 
> yellowing.
> > I'm not sure what the paper tone will be after they've faded away.  
> An
> > un-brightened -- no OBA -- paper like Epson Premier Art (205) 
> Scrapbook
> > (about $0.65 per page at Atlex.com) will start out a bit creamier, 
> but it'll
> > not yellow at all.  Epson claims this is their most archival 
> paper.  
> > 
> > In the Wilhelm tests where he says, "More than" X years, it may be 
> that the
> > apparently higher rated bright white plain paper has just been 
> tested for a
> > longer period due to, for example, the need to satisfy some large
> > archivally-sensitive buyer (like a government purchasing office -- 
> just
> > speculation). 
> > 
> > Paul
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Thanks much for the thoughts. I'm doing (it's done actually) a 
> calendar through Lulu for my new IR group, various photographers, and 
> am very pleased with the results . . however . . Lulu doesn't print a 
> back page so I need to print a sheet with a who-done-what and glue it 
> on.
> 
> I found some acid free adhesive and am trying to come somewhere near 
> the color, slightly bluish white, of the paper stock so I'm 
> considering Epson Watercolor paper, and the scrapbook paper also.
> 
> It will pump the price of the calendar but as long as I break even 
> it'll be OK as this is personally a learning project, and a pretty 
> fun one at that.
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Jules
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "the_des_bois" 
<thedesbois@...> wrote:
>
> Paul,
> 
> Sounds like a nice project. I'd like to get the link to buy one, if it
> is available to the public. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Denis Bouchard

Hi Denis,

Yes it will be available sooner or later but the pics are up on the 
site,

www.irtist.com

Scroll down to the bottom in the calendar catagory.

Cheers

Jules