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Red River Ultra-Pro Satin 2.0 3 month fade report

Red River Ultra-Pro Satin 2.0 3 month fade report

2007-10-26 by Steven Karafyllakis

I put 4 grayscales out in my south window on 7/17. They are receiving 
10-12 hrs of ambient light a day, with 3-4 hrs in the afternoon being 
direct (but not over-head) sunlight. The window is 1/4 inch standard 
glass.

Two scales are coated with PremierArt, two are not. Of each pair one 
is MIS K4 printed in my R1800, the other Epson K3/SP3800. Each scale 
has a black mattboard strip covering the middle 1/2-inch.  Readings 
taken with a Colorvision spectrophotometer.

MIS coated: Start, 2.4   @ 3 months, 2.35    Epson coated:  Start, 
2.59  @ 3 months, 2.53

MIS uncoated: Start,  2.31  @ 3 months  2.25  Epson Uncoated: start, 
2.48  @ 3 months 2.41

Lifting the strip of black cardboard, I can't yet see a divider line 
between the covered and uncovered parts on any of the scales.


The 'b' value of the base started at -3.4, initially went a bit bluer 
(OBAs burning off?) now is drifting back towards yellow a bit, but 
none of the blueness shifts are visible. This continues to be a 
warmer than average base color for an RC paper, but with  no rapid 
yellowing visible, unlike SOME of the RC papers I've tested.

I like this paper, it prints with good presence and tonal separation, 
and the warmer base makes it easier to mat.


Steven Karafyllakis

Re: [Digital BW] Red River Ultra-Pro Satin 2.0 3 month fade report

2007-10-26 by Harry Lockwood

Steven,

Ordinary window glass is a pretty good absorber of UV.  Standard window
glaze is about 2mm, a bit more than 1/16 inch.  If your windows are 1/4 inch
thick, they are not ³standard.²  Since absorption is exponential with
thickness, a factor of 4 in thickness will be very significant.

Harry

On 10/25/07 11:29 PM, "Steven Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...>
wrote:

>  
> I put 4 grayscales out in my south window on 7/17. They are receiving
> 10-12 hrs of ambient light a day, with 3-4 hrs in the afternoon being
> direct (but not over-head) sunlight. The window is 1/4 inch standard
> glass.
> 
> Two scales are coated with PremierArt, two are not. Of each pair one
> is MIS K4 printed in my R1800, the other Epson K3/SP3800. Each scale
> has a black mattboard strip covering the middle 1/2-inch.  Readings
> taken with a Colorvision spectrophotometer.
> 
> MIS coated: Start, 2.4   @ 3 months, 2.35    Epson coated:  Start,
> 2.59  @ 3 months, 2.53
> 
> MIS uncoated: Start,  2.31  @ 3 months  2.25  Epson Uncoated: start,
> 2.48  @ 3 months 2.41
> 
> Lifting the strip of black cardboard, I can't yet see a divider line
> between the covered and uncovered parts on any of the scales.
> 
> The 'b' value of the base started at -3.4, initially went a bit bluer
> (OBAs burning off?) now is drifting back towards yellow a bit, but
> none of the blueness shifts are visible. This continues to be a
> warmer than average base color for an RC paper, but with  no rapid
> yellowing visible, unlike SOME of the RC papers I've tested.
> 
> I like this paper, it prints with good presence and tonal separation,
> and the warmer base makes it easier to mat.
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis

-- 

Harry F. Lockwood




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Re: [Digital BW] Red River Ultra-Pro Satin 2.0 3 month fade report

2007-10-26 by Steven Karafyllakis

Make of it what you will, Harry. Other papers have faded visibly and 
yellowed in less time under the same conditions. For me, this paper 
is above average FOR AN RC PAPER in both printing ability and fade 
resistance. As they say, Your Mileage May Vary.

Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Harry Lockwood 
<hflockwood@...> wrote:
>
> Steven,
> 
> Ordinary window glass is a pretty good absorber of UV.  Standard 
window
> glaze is about 2mm, a bit more than 1/16 inch.  If your windows are 
1/4 inch
> thick, they are not ³standard.²  Since absorption is exponential 
with
> thickness, a factor of 4 in thickness will be very significant.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On 10/25/07 11:29 PM, "Steven Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...>
> wrote:
> 
> >  
> > I put 4 grayscales out in my south window on 7/17. They are 
receiving
> > 10-12 hrs of ambient light a day, with 3-4 hrs in the afternoon 
being
> > direct (but not over-head) sunlight. The window is 1/4 inch 
standard
> > glass.
> > 
> > Two scales are coated with PremierArt, two are not. Of each pair 
one
> > is MIS K4 printed in my R1800, the other Epson K3/SP3800. Each 
scale
> > has a black mattboard strip covering the middle 1/2-inch.  
Readings
> > taken with a Colorvision spectrophotometer.
> > 
> > MIS coated: Start, 2.4   @ 3 months, 2.35    Epson coated:  Start,
> > 2.59  @ 3 months, 2.53
> > 
> > MIS uncoated: Start,  2.31  @ 3 months  2.25  Epson Uncoated: 
start,
> > 2.48  @ 3 months 2.41
> > 
> > Lifting the strip of black cardboard, I can't yet see a divider 
line
> > between the covered and uncovered parts on any of the scales.
> > 
> > The 'b' value of the base started at -3.4, initially went a bit 
bluer
> > (OBAs burning off?) now is drifting back towards yellow a bit, but
> > none of the blueness shifts are visible. This continues to be a
> > warmer than average base color for an RC paper, but with  no rapid
> > yellowing visible, unlike SOME of the RC papers I've tested.
> > 
> > I like this paper, it prints with good presence and tonal 
separation,
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> > and the warmer base makes it easier to mat.
> > 
> > Steven Karafyllakis
> 
> -- 
> 
> Harry F. Lockwood
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: Red River Ultra-Pro Satin 2.0 3 month fade report

2007-10-27 by Manuel Toledo

With MIS K4, I like RR Polar Satin. A bit warmer than ultrapro. 

RR publishes the results of their own fade tests in this page:

http://www.redrivercatalog.com/infocenter/printlife_nav.htm

They report 35 yrs. for polar and 47 years for ultrapro.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
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>
> I put 4 grayscales out in my south window on 7/17. They are receiving 
> 10-12 hrs of ambient light a day, with 3-4 hrs in the afternoon being 
> direct (but not over-head) sunlight. The window is 1/4 inch standard 
> glass.
> 
> Two scales are coated with PremierArt, two are not. Of each pair one 
> is MIS K4 printed in my R1800, the other Epson K3/SP3800. Each scale 
> has a black mattboard strip covering the middle 1/2-inch.  Readings 
> taken with a Colorvision spectrophotometer.
> 
> MIS coated: Start, 2.4   @ 3 months, 2.35    Epson coated:  Start, 
> 2.59  @ 3 months, 2.53
> 
> MIS uncoated: Start,  2.31  @ 3 months  2.25  Epson Uncoated: start, 
> 2.48  @ 3 months 2.41
> 
> Lifting the strip of black cardboard, I can't yet see a divider line 
> between the covered and uncovered parts on any of the scales.
> 
> 
> The 'b' value of the base started at -3.4, initially went a bit bluer 
> (OBAs burning off?) now is drifting back towards yellow a bit, but 
> none of the blueness shifts are visible. This continues to be a 
> warmer than average base color for an RC paper, but with  no rapid 
> yellowing visible, unlike SOME of the RC papers I've tested.
> 
> I like this paper, it prints with good presence and tonal separation, 
> and the warmer base makes it easier to mat.
> 
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis
>

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