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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul

2001-09-24 by Adrian Joyner

Paul

Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. I have a project that needs warmtone but for various reasons I would prefer to use the Piezo driver. Can you offer any help?

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
England


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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul

2001-09-24 by Adrian Joyner

Thanks Paul, I'll order up some inks and give it a try. I was thinking of trying it on my 3000 machine with the latest Piezo driver and let you know how I get on.

Thanks and regards

Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
United Kingdom
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  From: Paul Roark 
  To: DigitalB&WPrint 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 5:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul


  Adrian,

  >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
  >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

  The long answer:

  Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
  sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same with
  all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
  get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
  changes.

  Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
  you need a "plug & play" solution?

  The short answer:

  Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
  identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
  inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
  different dilutions.

  Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

  Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

        Method 1:      Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

        Method 2:      Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

  Let me know how it goes.

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com



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Re: [Digital BW] Warm FS. A question for Paul

2002-02-05 by Paul Roark

Adrian,

>Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
>as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...

The long answer:

Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the same with
all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and regular to
get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any density
changes.

Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, or do
you need a "plug & play" solution?

The short answer:

Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density (virtually
identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS Vm
inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
different dilutions.

Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.

Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:

	Method 1:	Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;

	Method 2:	Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.

Let me know how it goes.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: Warm FS. A question for Paul

2002-02-08 by tomoc

Paul-

You are amaging in your ability to share useful knowledge with us.

We DO APPRECIATE IT.

Tom O'Connell

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Adrian,
> 
> >Is it possible to modify the FS mix to give a tone
> >as warm as the MIS VM warm tone. ...
> 
> The long answer:
> 
> Now that the neutral FS is done, coming out with a warmer -- perhaps
> sepia -- version is an obvious next step.  With the densities the 
same with
> all FS inks, it would then be a matter of mixing the sepia and 
regular to
> get the tone you like, and you would not have to worry about any 
density
> changes.
> 
> Do you fill your own carts?  Would some mixing be too much trouble, 
or do
> you need a "plug & play" solution?
> 
> The short answer:
> 
> Use MIS VM cyan as the FS cyan.  They are very close in density 
(virtually
> identical), and the VM inkset is the base warm gray ink in the MIS 
Vm
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> inkset.  It's the same pigment as the traditional MIS quads, just at
> different dilutions.
> 
> Mix an FS/VM magenta as follows: 26% VM cyan and 74% MIS clear base.
> 
> Mix an FS/VM yellow as follows:
> 
> 	Method 1:	Y = 11% VM cyan, remainder clear base;
> 
> 	Method 2:	Y = 43% FS/VM magenta, remainder clear base.
> 
> Let me know how it goes.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

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