From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Sintchak
Sent: 21 March 2008 4:26 p.m.
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Need help choosing printer solution (R2400 vs
PIXMA Pro 9500 vs 3-MK)
>>>>Macuser.co.uk put the 9500 "head, shoulders,
> knees and toes" above the other same class printers (R2400 & HP
> B9180) - http://www.macuser.co.uk/macuser/labs/151248. This
I cannot find this review of the 9500 you mention. On that site under
Reviews and Printers the only Canon listed is the 2500....
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On 3/17/08, Robert <rczire@... <mailto:rczire%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
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> Thanks to both you and Alistair for responding.
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> My thoughts were that if I were to go with the R2400 or Canon 9500, I
> would use the OEM inks. Macuser.co.uk put the 9500 "head, shoulders,
> knees and toes" above the other same class printers (R2400 & HP
> B9180) - http://www.macuser.co.uk/macuser/labs/151248. This is one of
> the reviews that nodged me towards the Canon, plus it comes with some
> cool software. By the same token the US based macuser if I recall,
> rated the R2400 on top. I understand now that the best way for me to
> choose is to purchase both, compare prints myself then return
> whichever I like less.
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> However. Since so many out there have had great results with 3rd
> party inks, I'm contemplating on giving it another try with a Canon
> 1800. This brings me to another fork, choosing the ink (MIS vs
> Piezo). If anyone has some tips I'd be greatful. I normally print on
> matte papers.
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> Lastly, with the risk of annoying everyone, could anyone give me an
> idea on how do prints printed with current 3rd party ink compare with
> prints made with one of these newer printers with multi-channel black?
> Thanks everyone for your help.
>
> Robert.
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "Robert Gaunt"
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> <rh.gaunt@...> wrote:
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> > I would choose the Epson R2400 but qualify that by saying I have
> not seen prints from the
> > Canon. My reasons are as follows - the Epson's 3 black inks will
> most likely produce a
> > better B&W print and more important you can run QuadToneRIP with
> the Epson. I am using
> > an Epson 2200 (2 black inks). B&W prints with the Epson driver
> were lousy until I got QTR
> > which transformed the prints to really great (not just my opinion,
> got 2nd place B&W print
> > in the New England Camera Club Council competition recently). I
> also have used the
> > R2400 at Santa Fe Workshops for B&Ws, just using the Epson software
> (no QTR) and the
> > prints were very good. Ditto that with the equivalent HP printers
> SFW now has.
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> > My digital SLR is a Canon 20D which I'm very happy with, so I have
> nothing against Canon.
> > Hope the above info is helpful, if not quite what you asked.
> >
> > Walk in Beauty, Bob Gaunt
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> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , "Robert"
> <rczire@> wrote:
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> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > I'd like to ask for your feedback on choosing a B/W printer.
> > >
> > > Background: I have purchased a refurbished 1280 from Epson over a
> > > year ago, with UT2 inks from MIS. This was my first attempt to
> making
> > > the leap from darkroom to digital printing. Unfortunately I was
> never
> > > able to make this solution work, I constantly got lines across my
> > > prints, but only with the MIS inks, not the stock Epson ones. I'm
> not
> > > faulting the ink, maybe it was my refurb'ed printer. But after
> > > countless hours of research and troubleshooting (removing pizza
> > > wheels, etc) I've given up in dissapointment. I should say that I
> > > would only print maybe once a week to a few times per month.
> > >
> > > I am now on a new quest, this time I thought I won't cut corners
> with
> > > refurbished printers, etc, so I've been looking at the Epson
> R2400
> > > and the Canon PIXMA Pro 9500. Not because I necessarily need an
> A3
> > > printer, but because smaller ones don't come equipped with
> separate
> > > grey cartridge. With current rebates they can be had for under
> $600.
> > > After many hours of reading reviews, I am leaning towards the
> 9500 as
> > > that seems to have better d-max (and the fact that I'm a EOS D30
> > > user). Though the Epson has 3 black/grey inks vs only 2 for the
> Canon.
> > >
> > > So my questions are:
> > > 1. has anyone compared prints from these two printers (R2400 &
> PIXMA
> > > Pro 9500), or has any feedback on choosing one vs the other?
> > >
> > > 2. has anyone compared print quality between one of the above
> > > printers, and Roark's workflow with the Epson 800/1800?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Robert.
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