Digital BW, The Print

Hi everyone,

I have searched this topic on the group before asking this question and 
have found some answers. My question really is which inkset would be 
best suited to an Epson 1290 (I think the US equivalent is 1280?). My 
concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which has been a problem 
on my printer, even with OEM inks, well especially with OEM inks.

I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, mainly due to cost 
and and also having the satisifaction of mixing my own inks (if that 
makes sense). I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.

Would I be better off buying an off the shelf inkset?

Many thanks in advance for your help,

Neil (United Kingdom)

>... which inkset would be  best suited to an Epson 1290 
> My concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which 
> has been a problem on my printer, even with OEM inks, ...

> I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, 
> mainly due to cost and and also having the satisifaction 
> of mixing my own inks ...
> I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.

Carbon-6 is probably one of the inksets least likely to clog.  There is 
no binder in it except for the residual from the Eboni, which is 
relatively clog free.

If you give it a try, let us know how it works on the 1290.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks for the reply Paul. 

I cant find a source of Photoflo 200 in the UK but we can get hold of 
Ilford Ilfotol wetting agent which is also a 1:200 working strength 
mix. Do you think this is worth a try? I can also find Photoflo 600 
but I seem to recall one of your articles/messages refers to you 
using Photoflo 200.

Many thanks again,

Neil






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> >... which inkset would be  best suited to an Epson 1290 
> > My concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which 
> > has been a problem on my printer, even with OEM inks, ...
> 
> > I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, 
> > mainly due to cost and and also having the satisifaction 
> > of mixing my own inks ...
> > I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.
> 
> Carbon-6 is probably one of the inksets least likely to clog.  
There is 

> no binder in it except for the residual from the Eboni, which is 
> relatively clog free.
> 
> If you give it a try, let us know how it works on the 1290.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

Photo Flo 600 is the large lab (non-consumer) version of Photo Flo, 
and is 3 times as concentrated as the 200.  It has the same wetting 
agent.  You would probably get the same results if you simply used 
less (1/3).  

I'm not sure how much the additional glycol in the Photo Flo 200 
matters.  You'd end up with less of that also with the 600, but 
offsetting this is that the 600's version of glocol is probably more 
effective (though toxic). 

I have some of the Ilford wetting agent but have not tested it.  My 
guess is that it's about the same.  I'd just try one of those and see 
what works.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com  


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "neil0968" 
<neil0968@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply Paul. 
> 
> I cant find a source of Photoflo 200 in the UK but we can get hold 
of 

> Ilford Ilfotol wetting agent which is also a 1:200 working strength 
> mix. Do you think this is worth a try? I can also find Photoflo 600 
> but I seem to recall one of your articles/messages refers to you 
> using Photoflo 200.
> 
> Many thanks again,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
> <pr_roark@> wrote:
> >
> > >... which inkset would be  best suited to an Epson 1290 
> > > My concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which 
> > > has been a problem on my printer, even with OEM inks, ...
> > 
> > > I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, 
> > > mainly due to cost and and also having the satisifaction 
> > > of mixing my own inks ...
> > > I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.
> > 
> > Carbon-6 is probably one of the inksets least likely to clog.  
> There is 
> > no binder in it except for the residual from the Eboni, which is 
> > relatively clog free.
> > 
> > If you give it a try, let us know how it works on the 1290.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
>

Thanks for your help Paul, its very much appreciated. 

I have another question I'm afraid. I'm about to order the Eboni ink 
but notice there are a few references to Eboni on the inksupply 
website. Do I need "EB6 Carbon Monotone Matte Blk (Eboni)" for the 
Carbon 6 or have I picked the wrong one?

Thanks again,

Neil






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
<pr_roark@...> wrote:
>
> Photo Flo 600 is the large lab (non-consumer) version of Photo Flo, 
> and is 3 times as concentrated as the 200.  It has the same wetting 
> agent.  You would probably get the same results if you simply used 
> less (1/3).  
> 
> I'm not sure how much the additional glycol in the Photo Flo 200 
> matters.  You'd end up with less of that also with the 600, but 
> offsetting this is that the 600's version of glocol is probably 
more 
> effective (though toxic). 
> 
> I have some of the Ilford wetting agent but have not tested it.  My 
> guess is that it's about the same.  I'd just try one of those and 
see 
> what works.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com  
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "neil0968" 
> <neil0968@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the reply Paul. 
> > 
> > I cant find a source of Photoflo 200 in the UK but we can get 
hold 
> of 
> > Ilford Ilfotol wetting agent which is also a 1:200 working 
strength 
> > mix. Do you think this is worth a try? I can also find Photoflo 
600 
> > but I seem to recall one of your articles/messages refers to you 
> > using Photoflo 200.
> > 
> > Many thanks again,
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
> > <pr_roark@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >... which inkset would be  best suited to an Epson 1290 
> > > > My concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which 
> > > > has been a problem on my printer, even with OEM inks, ...
> > > 
> > > > I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, 
> > > > mainly due to cost and and also having the satisifaction 
> > > > of mixing my own inks ...
> > > > I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.
> > > 
> > > Carbon-6 is probably one of the inksets least likely to clog.  
> > There is 
> > > no binder in it except for the residual from the Eboni, which 
is 

> > > relatively clog free.
> > > 
> > > If you give it a try, let us know how it works on the 1290.
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> >
>

Neil,

> ... I'm about to order the Eboni ink 
> but notice there are a few references to Eboni on the inksupply 
> website. Do I need "EB6 Carbon Monotone Matte Blk (Eboni)" for the 
> Carbon 6 or have I picked the wrong one?

All of the Eboni inks are the same.  So, it does not matter which MIS 
page you get the bulk Eboni MK from.  The Eboni-6 page at 
http://www.inksupply.com/eb6.cfm is as good as any.  For Carbon-6 
mixing, the K-position (Eboni) is the only one you'd be interested in.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "neil0968" 
<neil0968@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help Paul, its very much appreciated. 
> 
> I have another question I'm afraid. I'm about to order the Eboni 
ink 
> but notice there are a few references to Eboni on the inksupply 
> website. Do I need "EB6 Carbon Monotone Matte Blk (Eboni)" for the 
> Carbon 6 or have I picked the wrong one?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
> <pr_roark@> wrote:
> >
> > Photo Flo 600 is the large lab (non-consumer) version of Photo 
Flo, 
> > and is 3 times as concentrated as the 200.  It has the same 
wetting 
> > agent.  You would probably get the same results if you simply 
used 
> > less (1/3).  
> > 
> > I'm not sure how much the additional glycol in the Photo Flo 200 
> > matters.  You'd end up with less of that also with the 600, but 
> > offsetting this is that the 600's version of glocol is probably 
> more 
> > effective (though toxic). 
> > 
> > I have some of the Ilford wetting agent but have not tested it.  
My 
> > guess is that it's about the same.  I'd just try one of those and 
> see 
> > what works.
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "neil0968" 
> > <neil0968@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply Paul. 
> > > 
> > > I cant find a source of Photoflo 200 in the UK but we can get 
> hold 
> > of 
> > > Ilford Ilfotol wetting agent which is also a 1:200 working 
> strength 
> > > mix. Do you think this is worth a try? I can also find Photoflo 
> 600 
> > > but I seem to recall one of your articles/messages refers to 
you 
> > > using Photoflo 200.
> > > 
> > > Many thanks again,
> > > 
> > > Neil
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pr_roark" 
> > > <pr_roark@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >... which inkset would be  best suited to an Epson 1290 
> > > > > My concerns are really about clogging the nozzles which 
> > > > > has been a problem on my printer, even with OEM inks, ...
> > > > 
> > > > > I would really like to go down the Carbon 6 route, 
> > > > > mainly due to cost and and also having the satisifaction 
> > > > > of mixing my own inks ...
> > > > > I'm just worried about clogged nozzles.
> > > > 
> > > > Carbon-6 is probably one of the inksets least likely to 
clog.  
> > > There is 
> > > > no binder in it except for the residual from the Eboni, which 
> is 
> > > > relatively clog free.
> > > > 
> > > > If you give it a try, let us know how it works on the 1290.
> > > > 
> > > > Paul
> > > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
        I have been using an Eboni 6 inkset in my 1280 for about
        four months now and have not had a clogging problem.  However,
        I do try to run a nozzle check about once a week.
        Tom Garrett