Digital BW, The Print

I have a customer with a framing meltdown, I suspect they used an improper mounting adhesive.
I've seen info in the past about sticking with acrylic adhesives and avoiding PSA adhesives.
Of course this means little to me, but I need reliable info to pass on to the framer, and I've lost the info I saved from the past for just such an event.
Now that a few mores years of experience have past, can anyone give reliable adhesive recommendations for large coated fine art paper prints?
I'd prefer they were just hinged, but people seem insistent on mounting...
Thanks
Tyler

Hi Tyler,

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Mark D. Gottsegen
Materials Research Director
Intermuseum Conservation Association
2915 Detroit Avenue
Cleveland  OH  44113
office: 216 658 8700
cell: 330 977 0334
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Cheers

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From: Tyler Boley 
Subject: [Digital BW] safe adhesive?

I have a customer with a framing meltdown, I suspect they used an improper
mounting adhesive.
I've seen info in the past about sticking with acrylic adhesives and
avoiding PSA adhesives.
Of course this means little to me, but I need reliable info to pass on to
the framer, and I've lost the info I saved from the past for just such an
event.
Now that a few mores years of experience have past, can anyone give reliable
adhesive recommendations for large coated fine art paper prints?
I'd prefer they were just hinged, but people seem insistent on mounting...
Thanks
Tyler

  


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Hi Tyler,

I have used Lineco Neutral pH adhesive(item 901-1008) on a limited basis. It is safe and "archival" but I can not comment on its long-term adhesive proerties.

Regards,

Rudy Ternbach
So. Hadley, MAsstts.




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Emerick <dnemerick@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Tyler,
> 
> http://www.amien.org/
> 
> Mark D. Gottsegen
> Materials Research Director
> Intermuseum Conservation Association
> 2915 Detroit Avenue
> Cleveland  OH  44113
> office: 216 658 8700
> cell: 330 977 0334
> email: mdgottsegen@...
> website:  www.amien.org
> 
> 
> Cheers
>

> david emerick 
> 
> dnemerick@...
> http://www.davidemerick.com
> http://smcmmediacenter.blogspot.com/
> http://emerick.blogspot.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Tyler Boley 
> Subject: [Digital BW] safe adhesive?
> 
> I have a customer with a framing meltdown, I suspect they used an improper
> mounting adhesive.
> I've seen info in the past about sticking with acrylic adhesives and
> avoiding PSA adhesives.
> Of course this means little to me, but I need reliable info to pass on to
> the framer, and I've lost the info I saved from the past for just such an
> event.
> Now that a few mores years of experience have past, can anyone give reliable
> adhesive recommendations for large coated fine art paper prints?
> I'd prefer they were just hinged, but people seem insistent on mounting...
> Thanks
> Tyler
> 
>   
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Tyler,

If you find an answer to this question I would love to know what it is. I have someone asking me this about twice a year and I don't know what to tell them.

All I know is traditional dry mount tissue is strong and clean, but requires heat which it a disaster with the gloss type inkjet media because of warping in my experience. The other is PVA book binding glue, which is totally permanent and archival, but impossible to spread on a large paper print smoothly.

I've used a variety of the cold mount 3M products over the years but they seem to pull up around the edges eventually. Someone told me recently that they have new cold mount products that are better, I don't know if this is true or not.

On a related issue: do you have good art lamination possibilities in Seattle. Of all the people who laminate with uv laminates here in Atlanta, I don't know of a one that does it cleanly without dirt or air bubbles. There is this trend for people to want to avoid matting and framing and laminate and float prints from the wall. It isn't easy.

john







--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote:

>
> I have a customer with a framing meltdown, I suspect they used an improper mounting adhesive.
> I've seen info in the past about sticking with acrylic adhesives and avoiding PSA adhesives.
> Of course this means little to me, but I need reliable info to pass on to the framer, and I've lost the info I saved from the past for just such an event.
> Now that a few mores years of experience have past, can anyone give reliable adhesive recommendations for large coated fine art paper prints?
> I'd prefer they were just hinged, but people seem insistent on mounting...
> Thanks
> Tyler
>

John, to be honest I took this no further. I was sent into crisis mode to solve it, dropped a bunch of other fires to look for a solution, then some time later got another email from the client saying... "never mind..."
so, I just got back to the other fires..

I'm sort of surprised, after years of inkjets being made, there was no more list knowledge to share about it.
Anyway, I probably won't be able to put any more time into it until there's another related crisis...
No recommendations for laminating here, it just hasn't come up. I rarely seem to get people wanting anything but bare prints from me, which makes me very happy as even just that seems nearly impossible sometimes.. like today...
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote:

>
> 
> Tyler,
> 
> If you find an answer to this question I would love to know what it is...
> 
> On a related issue: do you have good art lamination possibilities in Seattle...
> john
> 

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a customer with a framing meltdown, I suspect they used an improper mounting adhesive.
> > I've seen info in the past about sticking with acrylic adhesives and avoiding PSA adhesives...

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