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I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.

Thanks.....

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@...> wrote:


I cut a roll on a woodcutting power miter saw and worked ok.

> I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> 
> Thanks.....
>

Why not be safe and use a roto-trim type of cutter.
 Mel Levine 


      

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@...> wrote:
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> I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> 
> Thanks.....
>
Type of saw is less important than type of blade you will use on that saw, I have also used a chop saw  - More important; use a fine tooth blade - AND you might want to bind the roll with several winds of kraft paper at the cut point to avoid any shredding as the cut begins and ends -  keep in mind that this is not a great idea to start with  and you may have some issues with loose paper fibers from the cut edge

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@...> wrote:
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> I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> 
> Thanks.....
>
Type of saw is less important than type of blade you will use on that saw, I have also used a chop saw  - More important; use a fine tooth blade - AND you might want to bind the roll with several winds of kraft paper at the cut point to avoid any shredding as the cut begins and ends -  keep in mind that this is not a great idea to start with  and you may have some issues with loose paper fibers from the cut edge

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@...> wrote:
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> I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> 
> Thanks.....

Thomas,
Since I don't have access to any power tools I used a hack saw with the finest tooth blade I could find. I kept my vacuum cleaner at my side to deal with the cutting 'dust' and vacuumed periodically thru the laborious cutting process. Posts on the group had talked about dust contamination in the printer as an issue. I was able to get a reasonable edge and had no issues printing on my R-2400. The cut edge was trimmed after printing so I didn't need a perfect cut edge. 
Band saws were ruled out as the blade can wander/bend(?) and give an inaccurate cut.
There were group posts suggesting using a 'chop saw'. After I had completed my hacksaw cutting I found a friend with a chop saw. Upon researching chop saw blades for cutting paper rolls the expert I spoke with suggested a blade model # AC 255100DN, 100 teeth, Grind-TCG, Rake-5, Kerf .094 priced at $75.00 US. Since my project was finished I archived the info for future.
Good Luck,
Julian Kaiser

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jlk4410" 

I also print on a 2400 and find there aren't many 13" rolls made. Cutting down was a way to print Pano's.


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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@> wrote:
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> > I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> > 
> > Thanks.....
> 
> Thomas,
> Since I don't have access to any power tools I used a hack saw with the finest tooth blade I could find. I kept my vacuum cleaner at my side to deal with the cutting 'dust' and vacuumed periodically thru the laborious cutting process. Posts on the group had talked about dust contamination in the printer as an issue. I was able to get a reasonable edge and had no issues printing on my R-2400. The cut edge was trimmed after printing so I didn't need a perfect cut edge. 
> Band saws were ruled out as the blade can wander/bend(?) and give an inaccurate cut.
> There were group posts suggesting using a 'chop saw'. After I had completed my hacksaw cutting I found a friend with a chop saw. Upon researching chop saw blades for cutting paper rolls the expert I spoke with suggested a blade model # AC 255100DN, 100 teeth, Grind-TCG, Rake-5, Kerf .094 priced at $75.00 US. Since my project was finished I archived the info for future.
> Good Luck,
> Julian Kaiser
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steve_wadlington" <steve_wadlington@...> wrote:
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@> wrote:

> > I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> > 
> > Thanks.....
> >
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For the past year I have been cutting down some of my larger rolls of paper for use in my Epson 4000.  I use a good chop saw with a sliding head and the best multi-tooth clean cutting blade I can find.  It should be a carbide blade and one you might use for fine molding cutting use, etc.

I use painter's tape to bind all the way around the roll where the cut will be and position it so that the cut is in the middle of the tape.

You will lose a bit of the leading edge of the paper due to tape residues when you are finished but I find the cut roll end to be glass smooth.  If the paper is tightly rolled to begin with and you keep it that way, all paper fines can easily be brushed away from the ends.

It works very well.

Regards

Mark MacKenzie
Alcalde, NM

Thanks, all, for your comments and suggestions. I didn't have a proper blade to even try this with my bandsaw and didn't have a good way to do it on the table saw even though I've got a 60-tooth carbide blade that probably would have done the job.

So I called a contractor friend today who lives nearby to use one of his chop saws. No luck. All three were miles from here on job sites. But, he offered to cut it on his radial arm saw. He didn't have a large enough blade to do it in one pass. He had to roll the paper and take three passes, but we used a stop block clamped to the table and got a very smooth and clean cut. No problems at all and it took just a few minutes. Now I'm ready to print.

Many ways to skin a cat, I guess!

Tom
Indianapolis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Mark MacKenzie" <mjmackenzie22@...> wrote:

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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steve_wadlington" <steve_wadlington@> wrote:
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> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Keesling" <restorephoto@> wrote:
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> > > I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.
> > > 
> > > Thanks.....
> > >
> >
> For the past year I have been cutting down some of my larger rolls of paper for use in my Epson 4000.  I use a good chop saw with a sliding head and the best multi-tooth clean cutting blade I can find.  It should be a carbide blade and one you might use for fine molding cutting use, etc.
> 
> I use painter's tape to bind all the way around the roll where the cut will be and position it so that the cut is in the middle of the tape.
> 
> You will lose a bit of the leading edge of the paper due to tape residues when you are finished but I find the cut roll end to be glass smooth.  If the paper is tightly rolled to begin with and you keep it that way, all paper fines can easily be brushed away from the ends.
> 
> It works very well.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mark MacKenzie
> Alcalde, NM
>

Thomas Keesling schreef:

> So I called a contractor friend today who lives nearby to use one of his chop saws. No luck. All three were miles from here on job sites. But, he offered to cut it on his radial arm saw. He didn't have a large enough blade to do it in one pass. He had to roll the paper and take three passes, but we used a stop block clamped to the table and got a very smooth and clean cut. No problems at all and it took just a few minutes. Now I'm ready to print.
>> I've got a roll of PhotoRag I want to cut. I seem to recall someone mentioning how they did this quite a while ago. Is a bandsaw the best tool to use? Or a table saw? I can use either, but just wondered what experiences others have had when doing this.

That's the way I do it on the DeWalt here. An end stop large enough to 
allow the roll to rotate against, the circle saw fixed just deep enough 
to cut the core carton wall and then turning the roll against the 
rotating direction of the saw. Of course first tape around the roll at 
the spot it will be cut off.

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Is'nt it interesting how no matter what we suggest to address a problem, someone says not to do it, the world will come to an end. We just get it done. :-)

> That's the way I do it on the DeWalt here. An end stop large enough to 
> allow the roll to rotate against, the circle saw fixed just deep enough 
> to cut the core carton wall and then turning the roll against the 
> rotating direction of the saw. Of course first tape around the roll at 
> the spot it will be cut off.
> 
> -- 
> Met vriendelijke groeten,   Ernst
> 
> 
> New: Dinkla Canvas Wrap Actions
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