Digital BW, The Print

On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:

> Hello,
>
> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
>
> Regards,
> Stephan
>
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>
> What problem?
> 
> Mark
> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> 
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stephan
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:22 AM, siiaam wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Stephan
> 
> I don't know, Stephen, and, in any case, I think the best place to  
> look for reports on any such problem(s) is probably MacInTouch.com.  
> You might also want to ask on MacEpson.com. Good luck.
> --
> Sam
>

On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "tboleyyh" <tyler@...> wrote:

> Mark it could very well be that given your work, you never  
> experienced the problem, nor now whether or not anything is  
> different in the update.
> Somehow, getting non-color managed data from Adobe through the OS to  
> the drivers became convoluted. Also, there was an issue with the ABW  
> driver as well, which I have not been monitoring, related to color  
> management.
> Generally the only people having trouble were those making profiles,  
> as one needs to be able to print a chart straight. I believe that  
> when a profile IS selected, there is no problem.
> I've been wondering- have the profiling applications from which one  
> can print the chart directly, like the EyeOne and DataColor  
> applications, found a way to get the data through unaltered? This  
> would explain why many have been unaffected.
>
> So, do you make your profiles with an app from which you print  
> charts directly? Also, since I know you do great Piezotone work, you  
> may never encounter an Almost Black and White issue.
> Tyler
>
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> <mark@...> wrote:
>>
>> What problem?
>>
>> Mark
>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
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>>> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE
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>>> PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
>>> DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE
>>> DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
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>>
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> AMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIG 
> ITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTER 
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> Y OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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>
> Actually, for some printers, the ColorMunki, since it only prints  
> targets directly to connected printers, does not work at all. The  
> Datacolor applications allow you to print targets from Photoshop, so  
> in those "worst cases" there is a workaround.
> 
> C. D. Tobie
> Global Product Technology Mngr.
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> Datacolor.com
> CDTobie@...
> 
> On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "tboleyyh" <tyler@...> wrote:
> 
> > Mark it could very well be that given your work, you never  
> > experienced the problem, nor now whether or not anything is  
> > different in the update.
> > Somehow, getting non-color managed data from Adobe through the OS to  
> > the drivers became convoluted. Also, there was an issue with the ABW  
> > driver as well, which I have not been monitoring, related to color  
> > management.
> > Generally the only people having trouble were those making profiles,  
> > as one needs to be able to print a chart straight. I believe that  
> > when a profile IS selected, there is no problem.
> > I've been wondering- have the profiling applications from which one  
> > can print the chart directly, like the EyeOne and DataColor  
> > applications, found a way to get the data through unaltered? This  
> > would explain why many have been unaffected.
> >
> > So, do you make your profiles with an app from which you print  
> > charts directly? Also, since I know you do great Piezotone work, you  
> > may never encounter an Almost Black and White issue.
> > Tyler
> >
> >  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia  
> > <mark@> wrote:
> >>
> >> What problem?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Stephan

On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:34 PM, tboleyyh wrote:

> well I'm stumped then...
> During the height of the Leopard, PSCS4, Epson driver confusion, did  
> you see a different between charts printed from your software and  
> from Adobe? Or where the generic RGB workarounds required for PS?
> Tyler
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie  
> <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, for some printers, the ColorMunki, since it only prints
>> targets directly to connected printers, does not work at all. The
>> Datacolor applications allow you to print targets from Photoshop, so
>> in those "worst cases" there is a workaround.
>>
>> C. D. Tobie
>> Global Product Technology Mngr.
>> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
>> Datacolor.com
>> CDTobie@...
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "tboleyyh" <tyler@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark it could very well be that given your work, you never
>>> experienced the problem, nor now whether or not anything is
>>> different in the update.
>>> Somehow, getting non-color managed data from Adobe through the OS to
>>> the drivers became convoluted. Also, there was an issue with the ABW
>>> driver as well, which I have not been monitoring, related to color
>>> management.
>>> Generally the only people having trouble were those making profiles,
>>> as one needs to be able to print a chart straight. I believe that
>>> when a profile IS selected, there is no problem.
>>> I've been wondering- have the profiling applications from which one
>>> can print the chart directly, like the EyeOne and DataColor
>>> applications, found a way to get the data through unaltered? This
>>> would explain why many have been unaffected.
>>>
>>> So, do you make your profiles with an app from which you print
>>> charts directly? Also, since I know you do great Piezotone work, you
>>> may never encounter an Almost Black and White issue.
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>>> <mark@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What problem?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephan
>
>
>
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> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,  
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,  
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE  
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE  
> PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH  
> DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE  
> DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR  
> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR  
> CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP;  
> OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO  
> GROUP.
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>
>
>
>

> From: siiaam <s-i-a-m@...>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Snow Leopard + PS CS4
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 4:22 PM
> Hello,
> 
> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system
> upgrade?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephan
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
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> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND
> AGREE THAT THE “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL
> BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY
> DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR
> EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR
> LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS”
> OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF
> THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE
> USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO
> GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR
> TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR
> (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
> YAHOO GROUP.
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>     mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
>

On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:34 PM, "tboleyyh" <tyler@tylerboley.com> wrote:

> well I'm stumped then...
> During the height of the Leopard, PSCS4, Epson driver confusion, did  
> you see a different between charts printed from your software and  
> from Adobe? Or where the generic RGB workarounds required for PS?
> Tyler
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie  
> <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, for some printers, the ColorMunki, since it only prints
>> targets directly to connected printers, does not work at all. The
>> Datacolor applications allow you to print targets from Photoshop, so
>> in those "worst cases" there is a workaround.
>>
>> C. D. Tobie
>> Global Product Technology Mngr.
>> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
>> Datacolor.com
>> CDTobie@...
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "tboleyyh" <tyler@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark it could very well be that given your work, you never
>>> experienced the problem, nor now whether or not anything is
>>> different in the update.
>>> Somehow, getting non-color managed data from Adobe through the OS to
>>> the drivers became convoluted. Also, there was an issue with the ABW
>>> driver as well, which I have not been monitoring, related to color
>>> management.
>>> Generally the only people having trouble were those making profiles,
>>> as one needs to be able to print a chart straight. I believe that
>>> when a profile IS selected, there is no problem.
>>> I've been wondering- have the profiling applications from which one
>>> can print the chart directly, like the EyeOne and DataColor
>>> applications, found a way to get the data through unaltered? This
>>> would explain why many have been unaffected.
>>>
>>> So, do you make your profiles with an app from which you print
>>> charts directly? Also, since I know you do great Piezotone work, you
>>> may never encounter an Almost Black and White issue.
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>>> <mark@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What problem?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>> http://www.stillrivereditions.com
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2009, at 12:22 PM, siiaam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system upgrade?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE “OWNE 
> R” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL  
> NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,  
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DA 
> MAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE L 
> OSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND “MODERATORS” OF DIGITAL BW,  
> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH D 
> AMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIG 
> ITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTER 
> ATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF  
> ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) AN 
> Y OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
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>
>
>

On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Ken Alexander wrote:

> Just read this article entitled "Epson/Snow Leopard Woes" today.  It  
> might help:
>
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/woes.shtml
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/3/09, siiaam <s-i-a-m@...> wrote:
>
>> From: siiaam <s-i-a-m@...>
>> Subject: [Digital BW] Snow Leopard + PS CS4
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Received: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 4:22 PM
>> Hello,
>>
>> has been the printing problem solved with Apple's system
>> upgrade?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stephan
>>