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2010-01-24 by spbimages
Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. Thanks, Steve
2010-01-25 by Mark Nelson
Platinum color or platinum curve? Mark Nelson www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com PDNPRint Forum @ Yahoo Groups www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com sent from my iPhonetypeDeviceThingy On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote: > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink > printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex > and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. > > Thanks, > Steve > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-25 by Steve Blair
Platinum or Palladium, like the old style. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_prints It has a cypia look but the tonal range is greater. Steve To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
From: Ender100@... Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:40:41 -0600 Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet Platinum color or platinum curve? Mark Nelson www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com PDNPRint Forum @ Yahoo Groups www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com sent from my iPhonetypeDeviceThingy On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote: > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink > printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex > and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. > > Thanks, > Steve > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-25 by ender100
Pure Palladium prints tend to have very open shadows and very long upper midtones and highlights. �The actual density of Palladium prints is only about log 1.5 at the most, whereas inkjet, gelatin silver, POP, Carbon prints have much higher density or blacks. � Platinum/Palladium does have a very long EXPOSURE SCALE�it takes a very dense negative to print with the process. �Prints can vary from very warm tone to neutral black. You can colorize prints to emulate it and adjust the tonal curve to mimic it. �The ABW feature of the Epson printers, when used with the warmer settings does a nice job of emulating it. -- Best Wishes, Mark Nelson Precision Digital Negatives PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups Mark Nelson Photography On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:04:09 PM, "Steve Blair" <spbimages@...> wrote:
From: "Steve Blair" <spbimages@...> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet Date: January 24, 2010 11:04:09 PM CST To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com Platinum or Palladium, like the old style.�http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_prints�It has a cypia look but the tonal range is greater.� Steve� To:�DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com� From:�Ender100@...� Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:40:41 -0600� Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet� Platinum color or platinum curve?� Mark Nelson� www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com� PDNPRint Forum @ Yahoo Groups� www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com� sent from my iPhonetypeDeviceThingy� On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote:� > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink� > printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex� > and have not quite had the success that I am looking for.� >� > Thanks,� > Steve� >� >� [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]� __________________________________________________________� Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.� http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-25 by Vinny
Check out Dan Burkholder's site. He had a tutorial on it that I found very good. Vinny www.wulfsden.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, ender100 <Ender100@...> wrote:
> > Pure Palladium prints tend to have very open shadows and very long upper midtones and highlights. The actual density of Palladium prints is only about log 1.5 at the most, whereas inkjet, gelatin silver, POP, Carbon prints have much higher density or blacks. Platinum/Palladium does have a very long EXPOSURE SCALEit takes a very dense negative to print with the process. Prints can vary from very warm tone to neutral black. > > You can colorize prints to emulate it and adjust the tonal curve to mimic it. The ABW feature of the Epson printers, when used with the warmer settings does a nice job of emulating it. > -- > Best Wishes, > > Mark Nelson > Precision Digital Negatives > PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups > > Mark Nelson Photography > > > On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:04:09 PM, "Steve Blair" <spbimages@...> wrote: > > From: "Steve Blair" <spbimages@...> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet > Date: January 24, 2010 11:04:09 PM CST > To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com > > Platinum or Palladium, like the old style. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platinum_prints It has a cypia look but the tonal range is greater. > > Steve > > > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > From: Ender100@... > Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:40:41 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet > > > > > > Platinum color or platinum curve? > > Mark Nelson > www.PrecisionDigitalNegatives.com > PDNPRint Forum @ Yahoo Groups > www.MarkINelsonPhoto.com > > sent from my iPhonetypeDeviceThingy > > On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote: > > > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink > > printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex > > and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2010-01-25 by E.Neilsen
Steve, As mentioned by Mark, I found the Epson's ABW did a good job of matching what I'd already though was more PT/PL look' Cone's Piezo Sepia Set on HPR 308. The crafting of the color really depends on whether you are matching a platinum / palladium print and processed in what developer. You could also try and think of it looking like a Silver gelatin print and a slight Sepia tone with brown rather than and yellowish characteristics. It is very easy to do, but alas it is not a PT / PD print. It certainly doesn't have the track record for keeping quality that a true print has. Eric Neilsen Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 www.ericneilsenphotography.com skype me with ejprinter _____
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of spbimages Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:09 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Platinum look on a ink jet Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. Thanks, Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-27 by ric_kb
Several other subscribers have answered this, and with answers that I can agree with. However, if what you didn't ask, but may have meant to, went something like "can you fool people who are familiar with plats with a digital print," then my answer would be: at three feet and under glass, yep, most of the people can be fooled, but not at 3 inches. In fact the plats printed over the past 30 years don't match those printed around the turn of that last century. In 1970 I was lucky enough to get 3 platinum prints that had been made around 1910. The prints I have seen current workers doing do not match those from a hundred years ago, they barely make it at the 3 foot test. richard. L. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote:
> > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. > > Thanks, > Steve >
2010-01-27 by ender100
Richard, When you say the current platinum prints don't match the vintage platinum prints, what do you mean? -- Best Wishes, Mark Nelson Precision Digital Negatives PDNPrint Forum @ Yahoo Groups Mark Nelson Photography On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:01:12 PM, ric_kb <ric_kb@...> wrote: Several other subscribers have answered this, and with answers that I can agree with. However, if what you didn't ask, but may have meant to, went something like "can you fool people who are familiar with plats with a digital print," then my answer would be: at three feet and under glass, yep, most of the people can be fooled, but not at 3 inches. In fact the plats printed over the past 30 years don't match those printed around the turn of that last century. In 1970 I was lucky enough to get 3 platinum prints that had been made around 1910. The prints I have seen current workers doing do not match those from a hundred years ago, they barely make it at the 3 foot test. richard. L. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2010-01-27 by Steve Blair
Thanks for the comments. I agree with you 100%. I am not trying to fool viewers, just trying to get better prints that would be closer to the platinum look. There is nothing like the original. Steve To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
From: ric_kb@... Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:01:12 +0000 Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Platinum look on a ink jet Several other subscribers have answered this, and with answers that I can agree with. However, if what you didn't ask, but may have meant to, went something like "can you fool people who are familiar with plats with a digital print," then my answer would be: at three feet and under glass, yep, most of the people can be fooled, but not at 3 inches. In fact the plats printed over the past 30 years don't match those printed around the turn of that last century. In 1970 I was lucky enough to get 3 platinum prints that had been made around 1910. The prints I have seen current workers doing do not match those from a hundred years ago, they barely make it at the 3 foot test. richard. L. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "spbimages" <spbimages@...> wrote: > > Has anybody been successful in getting the platinum look using a ink printer. I am using an Epson R2400, photoshop CS4 with Silver Efex and have not quite had the success that I am looking for. > > Thanks, > Steve > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]