Dear Dieter, Florian, Bakis, David .... Personally, I would prefer a "simple" approach as follows: -midi-in and -thru (to be able to link more units ... ) -cv and gate out (with PCB-mounted dip switch to be able to drive the internal system bus) -control pot & cv in for gate-out length -three-way switch & cv in for octave range -control pot & cv in for the note order cq. buffer readout order. (according to Florian's earlier suggestions; for the latter, a memory function + two-digit LED readout (like on the A-107) could be a nice extra but not essential. -mabe also a cv-controlled clock divider/multiplier for the gate out? I agree that a separate "mini-keyboard" (like on the TB-303) might look sexy, but I doubt that it would sell very well, and I think that in any case, a midi-input would make it most versatile for a wide range of users. Best regards, Joost --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...> wrote: > > Sounds interesting for me too. How should the input of the notes be > managed - if not via Midi (e.g. with several CV inputs)? Or is Midi the only > option from your point of view ? Or a separate keyboard just for this > function (e.g. with small buttons only, like the buttons used in the A-107 > or A-113) ? > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von levka0 > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 20:39 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: ideas/opinions on quantizer and (VC) > > arpeggiator > > > > > > Many thanks Florian ! > > > > This is a very clear explanation to me. > > > > So for a 6 bit buffer, 32 adresses would be scanned an their order > > could be remapped according to a certain control voltage ? > > Reminds me of a wavetable. > > Instead of the usual up/down/up+down order, this would mean an almost > > infinite number of patterns (that is, if all 32 adresses are filled) > > Probably 4 bit (8 notes ?) should be enough and would keep this > > feasible regarding the number of possible sequences. > > > > I think this could be a very interesting & exciting concept for a module. > > > > Best regards > > Joost > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander > > <Florian.Anwander@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Levka > > > > > > > I do not yet understand completely what Florian means by this; > > > > Florian; Could you perhaps elaborate a little on this ? > > > Ok, but it will be a little bit longish... > > > > > > Originally an arpeggiator as in Roland Jupiter Series, in SH101 or in > > > the Korg Monopoly/Polysix was a simply "misusage" of the keyboard > > > scanning electronics. The keyboard of these synths is like a matrix > > > scanner. The electronics send addresses (usally 6Bit) in a certain > > order > > > to this matrix, read the data (=pressed keys) from this matrix into a > > > buffer, and distribute these (key-)data from the buffer to the sound > > > generation. > > > > > > Usually this reading from the buffer is very(!) fast (at some hundered > > > kHz rate). For arpeggiating the buffer is simply read slowly at the > > rate > > > of the (internal or external) clock of the arpeggio. > > > So at each trigger of the clocksignal provides the next key data to the > > > sound generation. > > > > > > For up, down, up/down arpeggios you simply change the way the matrix of > > > the keyboard is addressed. whether the adresses are counted up or down > > > or.... > > > > > > This is the classic arppeggio function in basic. > > > > > > Now you may imagine, that it would be great to have influence on the > > > address data of the keyboard scanner. Example: normally the order of > > the > > > notes are > > > adresse 000 001 010 011 100 101 110 111 (order= a0 a1 a2) > > > notes c c# d d# e f f# g > > > If I press a c-major the order of the notes in the buffer will be > > > "c e g". A c-sus9 will be "c d f g" > > > > > > Now i simply invert adress a1: > > > adresse 010 011 000 001 110 111 100 101 > > > notes d d# c c# f# g e f > > > Now the order of the notes in the buffer (and the order of an arpeggio) > > > will be "c g e". The c-sus9 is now "d c g f" > > > > > > You see that a simple conversion of the address data does create > > > complete new arpeggio patterns. Imagine what is possible, if you do > > such > > > conversion depending on other sequencings, on states of some > > > controlvoltages or what ever... > > > > > > > > > > > > I know, that a MIDI based arpeggiator system would have to simulate > > > this, but I think, it would be worth the effort :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Florian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: ideas/opinions on quantizer and (VC) arpeggiator
2006-05-20 by levka0
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