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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!!

2006-09-08 by achtung_999

Oh brother!
I haven't checked the Doepfer list for months (too busy with other things.. )
And then this!!!
Both modules are looking like must have stuff for what I do.....



On 9/8/06, hardware@doepfer.de <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:
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> Ingo,
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>  thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has
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>  VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of
>  the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO
>  but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the
>  linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the
>  A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available).
>  And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the
>  VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra.
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>  Best wishes
>  Dieter Doepfer
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>  > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>  > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>  > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate
>  > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29
>  > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>  > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!!
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>  > hello guys,
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>  > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco:
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>  > the module uses a special ic for it's functions.
>  > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also
>  > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in.
>  > since all the parts are already there, they are brought
>  > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar
>  > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf
>  > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core
>  > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do
>  > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other
>  > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in
>  > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but
>  > again you will use it differently in the a111/2.
>  > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms.
>  > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate
>  > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff
>  > on-board which is needed for this new vco design,
>  > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic
>  > and has that linear-fm-feature.
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>  > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost
>  > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for),
>  > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first
>  > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach
>  > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice.
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>  > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259,
>  > as it uses completely different techniques (except that
>  > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely
>  > different features. i can understand the expectations and
>  > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different
>  > pair of shoes.
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>  > best wishes
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>  > ingo
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>  > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...>
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>  > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109-
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>  > > into a new module.
>  > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I
>  > had
>  > > expected!
>  > > All the best
>  > > Axel
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>  > > Jay schrieb:
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>  > > > Bakis Sirros wrote:
>  > > > > hello jay,
>  > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok.
>  > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though.
>  > > > > best regards,
>  > > > > Bakis.
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>  > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and
>  > how they
>  > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems
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>  > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be
>  > used for
>  > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259.
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