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2006-09-07 by Pierre Zeeman
> http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm Very cool, but I'd be more interested in a module that featured just the left hand side of the a1112 (and the outputs, of course). The morph, vcf and vca parts don't seem to be intrinsic to the sound generated and can be supplied by existing modules. The a1113, perhaps?
2006-09-07 by Bakis Sirros
what can i say? just see for yourself! http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm best regards, Bakis. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.rubber.gr Athens-Greece __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-09-07 by unknown freak
Holy cow! --Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bakis Sirros Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:41 PM To: Doepfer_a100 group Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! what can i say? just see for yourself! http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm best regards, Bakis. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.rubber.gr Athens-Greece __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links
2006-09-07 by Brandon Daniel
> http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm Neat! Though it seems unfortunate not to have inputs to break the normalled connections for the pan, vcf, and vca sections, so that they could be used in a more versatile way in larger systems... -Brandon ------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant, or notice. They may do this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no recourse nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current President.
2006-09-07 by Jay
unknown freak wrote: > http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm I'm thinking if I need all that extra stuff for a patch, I'm just going to use an A109.
2006-09-07 by Bakis Sirros
hello jay, for standard stuff the a109 is ok. the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. best regards, Bakis. --- Jay <groups@fatbaron.com> wrote: > unknown freak wrote: > > > http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm > > I'm thinking if I need all that extra stuff for a > patch, I'm just going > to use an A109. > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.rubber.gr Athens-Greece __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-09-08 by Jay
Bakis Sirros wrote: > hello jay, > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > best regards, > Bakis. I understand that the new oscillator has different features and how they can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems quite redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be used for a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259.
2006-09-08 by selfoscillate
hello guys, just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: the module uses a special ic for it's functions. this ic features not only the vco, but it has also the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. since all the parts are already there, they are brought out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but again you will use it differently in the a111/2. in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff on-board which is needed for this new vco design, and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic and has that linear-fm-feature. naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, as it uses completely different techniques (except that both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely different features. i can understand the expectations and yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different pair of shoes. best wishes ingo --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> wrote: > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- features > into a new module. > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I had > expected! > All the best > Axel > > Jay schrieb: > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > hello jay, > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > best regards, > > > Bakis. > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and how they > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems quite > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be used for
> > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-09-08 by Axel Jungkunst
Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109-features into a new module. The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I had expected! All the best Axel Jay schrieb: > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > hello jay, > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > best regards, > > Bakis. > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and how they > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems quite > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be used for > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-08 by Bakis Sirros
well said ingo! after all, you could buy two a111-2's and you have your pair of complex vco's (plus many more things!) in a much lower price than the buchla module... best regards, :-) Bakis. --- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote: > > hello guys, > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 > dynamic vco: > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > since all the parts are already there, they are > brought > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is > similar > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as > the vcf > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle > core > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can > do > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with > any other > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the > built-in > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, > but > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new > waveforms. > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally > replicate > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an > almost > complete synth voice (also a module some people have > asked for), > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in > the first > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco > approach > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla > 259, > as it uses completely different techniques (except > that > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > different features. i can understand the > expectations and > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a > different > pair of shoes. > > best wishes > > ingo > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst > <phaedra@...> > wrote: > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the > doubling of the 109- > features > > into a new module. > > The 259 features or something in this way would > have been that I > had > > expected! > > All the best > > Axel > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > hello jay, > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > best regards, > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has > different features and > how they > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the > pan/filter/vca part seems > quite > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space > could better be > used for > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla > 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds [Doepfer_a100] group owner http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic http://www.shimarecords.co.uk http://www.rubber.gr Athens-Greece __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-09-08 by hardware@doepfer.de
Ingo, thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has a VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > hello guys, > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > different features. i can understand the expectations and > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > pair of shoes. > > best wishes > > ingo > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > wrote: > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > features > > into a new module. > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > had > > expected! > > All the best > > Axel > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > hello jay, > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > best regards, > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > how they > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > quite > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > used for > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-08 by achtung_999
Oh brother! I haven't checked the Doepfer list for months (too busy with other things.. ) And then this!!! Both modules are looking like must have stuff for what I do.....
On 9/8/06, hardware@doepfer.de <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote: > > > > > > > Ingo, > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has > a > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > pair of shoes. > > > > best wishes > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > features > > > into a new module. > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > had > > > expected! > > > All the best > > > Axel > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > best regards, > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > how they > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > quite > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > used for > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-08 by amnesia
how does this compare to the Plan B Complex VCO? Any release date? hardware@doepfer.de wrote:
> > Ingo, > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO > has a > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > functions of > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could > treat the > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > pair of shoes. > > > > best wishes > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > features > > > into a new module. > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > had > > > expected! > > > All the best > > > Axel > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > best regards, > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > how they > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > quite > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > used for > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-08 by selfoscillate
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, amnesia <amnesia@...> wrote: > > how does this compare to the Plan B Complex VCO? > > Any release date? it doesn't compare to the model 15 at all (except the fact that both have a triangle core). the waveshaping features of the a111/2 cannot be found on any other modular vco (at least i don't know of any). sound examples and oscilloscope pictures are not yet ready, but i guess that these will show the differences between the a111/2 and the other vco's in a very clear way. release date? i don't know. maybe just in time before christmas? best wishes ingo
2006-09-08 by hardware@doepfer.de
I think our new VCO is a completely different design compared to Peter's Complex VCO. Both VCOs will have their own peculiarities and special features. The prospective release date is end of 2006/early 2007 provided that no major changes and modifications have to be made. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von amnesia > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 13:24 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > revealed!!! > > > how does this compare to the Plan B Complex VCO? > > Any release date? > > > hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > > > > Ingo, > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO > > has a > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > > functions of > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a > "pure" VCO > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other > filter of the > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM > available). > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could > > treat the > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer
2006-09-08 by untiedstates
Wow.. that VCO is pretty exciting. I'd posted before about wanting to switch waveforms within one cycle - and this is gonna do it. Of course, I can do something like that with my A-151 Quad Sequential switch but it adds a "click" when switching waveforms. I imagine the A-111-2 will have a smooth transition. A-111-2 into an A-137 ?!?! I can only imagine... nuclear reaction! hmmm.. can Santa bring me the A-111-2 plus a Zeroscillator? SPeaking of cool oscillators.. I really dig how the Bananalogue Serge VCS works as an oscillator with voltage controlled rising and falling slopes - linear and nonlinear - wicked sounds out of it. I'd be keen to see VC control slopes in other oscillators as well... --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> > what can i say? > just see for yourself! > http://www.doepfer.de/A1882.htm > http://www.doepfer.de/A1112.htm > > best regards, > Bakis. > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk > http://www.rubber.gr > Athens-Greece > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2006-09-08 by Axel Jungkunst
Hi Ingo, thanks for your posting, it leaves no doubt in the A111-2! best wishes Axel selfoscillate schrieb: > > > hello guys, > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > different features. i can understand the expectations and > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > pair of shoes. > > best wishes > > ingo > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > wrote: > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > features > > into a new module. > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > had > > expected! > > All the best > > Axel > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > hello jay, > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > best regards, > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > how they > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > quite > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > used for > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-08 by rfahl@pdx.edu
Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394?!? If so, I'm glad that someone has finally released a module based off that IC. Romeo Quoting hardware@doepfer.de:
> Ingo, > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has a > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > pair of shoes. > > > > best wishes > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > features > > > into a new module. > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > had > > > expected! > > > All the best > > > Axel > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > best regards, > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > how they > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > quite > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > used for > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-09 by Anton Coops
Hello Mr. Doepfer, Congratulations on two more winning designs. I was wondering: what is the reason behind the non-linear values of the various BBD-taps? Is this because of the properties of the BBD? Like for instance 3328/396 = 8.4 Greetings, Anton
On 8 Sep 2006, at 9:58, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > Ingo, > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has a > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > pair of shoes. > > > > best wishes > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > features > > > into a new module. > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > had > > > expected! > > > All the best > > > Axel > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > best regards, > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > how they > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > quite > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > used for > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-11 by selfoscillate
nice nose ;-) --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, rfahl@... wrote: > > Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394?!? If so, I'm glad > that someone has finally released a module based off that IC. > > Romeo > > Quoting hardware@...: > > > Ingo, > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the new VCO has a > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual functions of > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a "pure" VCO > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other filter of the > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM available). > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you could treat the > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > > pair of shoes. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > > features > > > > into a new module. > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > > had > > > > expected! > > > > All the best > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > > how they > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > > quite > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be
> > > used for > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-11 by hardware@doepfer.de
Right. The CEM3394 is used in the A-111-2. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von rfahl@pdx.edu > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 17:37 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > revealed!!! > > > Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394?!? If > so, I'm glad > that someone has finally released a module based off that IC. > > Romeo > > Quoting hardware@doepfer.de: > > > Ingo, > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the > new VCO has a > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > functions of > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a > "pure" VCO > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other > filter of the > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM > available). > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you > could treat the > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > > pair of shoes. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > > features > > > > into a new module. > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > > had > > > > expected! > > > > All the best > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > > how they > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > > quite > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > > used for > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2006-09-11 by hardware@doepfer.de
Anton, the six taps of the BBD are prescribed by the circuit used (MN3011) and cannot be changed. It's the only BBD chip with several taps I know. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Anton Coops > Gesendet: Samstag, 9. September 2006 10:49 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > revealed!!! > > > Hello Mr. Doepfer, > > Congratulations on two more winning designs. > > I was wondering: what is the reason behind the non-linear values of > the various BBD-taps? Is this because of the properties of the BBD? > Like for instance 3328/396 = 8.4 > > Greetings, > > Anton > > > On 8 Sep 2006, at 9:58, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > > > Ingo, > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the > new VCO has a > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > functions of > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a > "pure" VCO > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget the > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other > filter of the > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM > available). > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you > could treat the > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > > pair of shoes. > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > > features > > > > into a new module. > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > > had > > > > expected! > > > > All the best > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > > how they > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > > quite > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > > used for > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-11 by Dubshot
Good morning, Personally I like these values, I'm not into echo's that are timed dead straight. Thanks and greetings Anton
> Anton, > > the six taps of the BBD are prescribed by the circuit used (MN3011) and > cannot be changed. It's the only BBD chip with several taps I know. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Anton Coops >> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. September 2006 10:49 >> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules >> revealed!!! >> >> >> Hello Mr. Doepfer, >> >> Congratulations on two more winning designs. >> >> I was wondering: what is the reason behind the non-linear values of >> the various BBD-taps? Is this because of the properties of the BBD? >> Like for instance 3328/396 = 8.4 >> >> Greetings, >> >> Anton >> >> >> On 8 Sep 2006, at 9:58, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: >> >> > Ingo, >> > >> > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the >> new VCO has a >> > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual >> functions of >> > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a >> "pure" VCO >> > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget >> the >> > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other >> filter of the >> > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM >> available). >> > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you >> could treat the >> > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. >> > >> > Best wishes >> > Dieter Doepfer >> > >> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von selfoscillate >> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 >> > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules >> revealed!!! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > hello guys, >> > > >> > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: >> > > >> > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. >> > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also >> > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. >> > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought >> > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar >> > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf >> > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core >> > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do >> > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other >> > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in >> > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but >> > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. >> > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. >> > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate >> > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff >> > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, >> > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic >> > > and has that linear-fm-feature. >> > > >> > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost >> > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), >> > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first >> > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach >> > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. >> > > >> > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, >> > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that >> > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely >> > > different features. i can understand the expectations and >> > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different >> > > pair of shoes. >> > > >> > > best wishes >> > > >> > > ingo >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- >> > > features >> > > > into a new module. >> > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I >> > > had >> > > > expected! >> > > > All the best >> > > > Axel >> > > > >> > > > Jay schrieb: >> > > > > >> > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: >> > > > > > hello jay, >> > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. >> > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. >> > > > > > best regards, >> > > > > > Bakis. >> > > > > >> > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and >> > > how they >> > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems >> > > quite >> > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be >> > > used for >> > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > mailto:Doepfer_a100-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > >
2006-09-11 by J S
Is that going to make it sound like a CEM vco? In that case I'm not that excited anymore............I have like 6 cem vco's already... 2006/9/11, hardware@doepfer.de <hardware@doepfer.de>: > > Right. The CEM3394 is used in the A-111-2. > > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]Im > Auftrag von rfahl@pdx.edu <rfahl%40pdx.edu> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 17:37 > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > > > revealed!!! > > > > > > Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394?!? If > > so, I'm glad > > that someone has finally released a module based off that IC. > > > > Romeo > > > > Quoting hardware@doepfer.de <hardware%40doepfer.de>: > > > > > Ingo, > > > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the > > new VCO has a > > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > > functions of > > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a > > "pure" VCO > > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget > the > > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other > > filter of the > > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM > > available). > > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you > > could treat the > > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>]Im > Auftrag von selfoscillate > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > > > pair of shoes. > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, > Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > > > features > > > > > into a new module. > > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > > > had > > > > > expected! > > > > > All the best > > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > > > how they > > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > > > quite > > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be > > > > used for > > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-12 by selfoscillate
i think because of the waveshaping it can sound different, but of course it will have some kind of cem-flavour. maybe the soon coming sound examples will convince you. best wishes ingo --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "J S" <melovelove@...> wrote: > > Is that going to make it sound like a CEM vco? > > In that case I'm not that excited anymore............I have like 6 cem vco's > already... > > 2006/9/11, hardware@... <hardware@...>: > > > > Right. The CEM3394 is used in the A-111-2. > > > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com>]Im > > Auftrag von rfahl@... <rfahl%40pdx.edu> > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 17:37 > > > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > > > > > revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > Hmmm.... This smells like... sniff sniff sniff.... CEM3394?!? If > > > so, I'm glad > > > that someone has finally released a module based off that IC. > > > > > > Romeo > > > > > > Quoting hardware@... <hardware%40doepfer.de>: > > > > > > > Ingo, > > > > > > > > thank you for this clarification. Yes, the circuit used in the > > > new VCO has a > > > > VCF and VCA available and this may explain some of the unusual > > > functions of > > > > the module. Of course we could omit these sections to obtain a > > > "pure" VCO > > > > but this does not make sense from my point of view. And don't forget > > the > > > > linear FM of the filter. This is not possible with any other > > > filter of the > > > > A-100 (I don't know if there are other filters with linear FM > > > available). > > > > And a VCA for AM applications is not a bad idea too. So you > > > could treat the > > > > VCF and VCA as a (nearly) free extra. > > > > > > > > Best wishes > > > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com<Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com>]Im > > Auftrag von selfoscillate > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2006 08:29 > > > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: New impressive Doepfer modules > > revealed!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello guys, > > > > > > > > > > just to clear some things out on the new a111/2 dynamic vco: > > > > > > > > > > the module uses a special ic for it's functions. > > > > > this ic features not only the vco, but it has also > > > > > the vcf, the vca and the panning unit built-in. > > > > > since all the parts are already there, they are brought > > > > > out to the front panel. the vcf in the a111/2 is similar > > > > > to the vcf in the a109, but it is not the same, as the vcf > > > > > in the a111/2 can be modulated with the triangle core > > > > > waveform in a linear manner. in other words, you can do > > > > > linear fm on that vcf and you cannot do this with any other > > > > > a100 filter (they all have exponential fm). the built-in > > > > > panning unit is basically the same as in the a109, but > > > > > again you will use it differently in the a111/2. > > > > > in the a111/2 you will use it to create new waveforms. > > > > > so after all the a111/2 does not intentionally replicate > > > > > some of the a109 features, it just has all the stuff > > > > > on-board which is needed for this new vco design, > > > > > and it offers the vcf because it is part of the ic > > > > > and has that linear-fm-feature. > > > > > > > > > > naturally it is possible to use the a111/2 as an almost > > > > > complete synth voice (also a module some people have asked for), > > > > > but that was not what dieter wanted to achieve in the first > > > > > place. the module should more be seen as a new vco approach > > > > > which can "alternatively" be used as a synth voice. > > > > > > > > > > the module also shouldn't be compared with a buchla 259, > > > > > as it uses completely different techniques (except that > > > > > both have a triangle vco core) and offers completely > > > > > different features. i can understand the expectations and > > > > > yes, the 259 is gorgeous, but it's really a different > > > > > pair of shoes. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > > > > > ingo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just my opinion! I'm a bit surprised of the doubling of the 109- > > > > > features > > > > > > into a new module. > > > > > > The 259 features or something in this way would have been that I > > > > > had > > > > > > expected! > > > > > > All the best > > > > > > Axel > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bakis Sirros wrote: > > > > > > > > hello jay, > > > > > > > > for standard stuff the a109 is ok. > > > > > > > > the a111-2 is for more wierd stuff though. > > > > > > > > best regards, > > > > > > > > Bakis. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand that the new oscillator has different features and > > > > > how they > > > > > > > can be used. I'm just saying that the pan/filter/vca part seems > > > > > quite > > > > > > > redundant in a modular synthesizer. That space could better be
> > > > > used for > > > > > > > a second modulation oscillator like a Buchla 259. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-09-12 by IZAM
I wonder if anyone can advise me on how i could take a series of modules by doepfer and livewire and plan b and remove the front panels and design new matching panels for them all ? front panel designer people shaeffer (i think thats the company ?) my question is , is it simply a question of measureing the original front panels up with a ruler when removed from circuits and then inputting into the fpd software ? anyone have any advise ? i hate ( an i know its odd . . .) but i hate the livewire design alongside the doepfer , i love doepfers modernish font and style but dislike the plan b style .It irrtates me , i know , call me a weirdo :) but i got me thinking , ok so its a bit costly but what a freaked out custom design you could make.I very elast i want to redesign 2 of the formats / makes at some point. any advise (please no suggestions i see a shrink ! :) --------------------------------- Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-12 by hardware@doepfer.de
Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel Draw for our front panel printing. www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel Draw file A100_System.cdr Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von IZAM > Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2006 11:18 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Re: customisation of front panels > > > I wonder if anyone can advise me on how i could take a series of > modules by doepfer and livewire and plan b and remove the front > panels and design new matching panels for them all ? > > front panel designer people shaeffer (i think thats the company ?) > > my question is , is it simply a question of measureing the > original front panels up with a ruler when removed from > circuits and then inputting into the fpd software ? > > anyone have any advise ? i hate ( an i know its odd . . .) but > i hate the livewire design alongside the doepfer , i love > doepfers modernish font and style but dislike the plan b style > .It irrtates me , i know , call me a weirdo :) but i got me > thinking , ok so its a bit costly but what a freaked out custom > design you could make.I very elast i want to redesign 2 of the > formats / makes at some point. > > any advise (please no suggestions i see a shrink ! :) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . "The New Version is radically > easier to use" The Wall Street Journal > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-12 by Julian
Allan Hall did a lot of this kind of stuff (you still about allan? ; ) But heres a few comments - If youre keeping the layout the same (i assume you have to because of the pcb mounted components) then why not just keep the metalwork also? Youll need to remove the old ink. Some solvent or other will do, im sure. Then you need to reapply the legend. If you really want to go to town, then screen print them (or get them screened) but a far cheaper approach is to use something like lasertran. But, yes, youll still need your design. As Dieter said, the corel draw files are availible. You could start with these... The knobs are, i think Rean, but you can only get black ones 'off the shelf' You can spray them easy enough, and then paint on the black line. (thanks again to Allan for telling me all this) Julian (mine are engraved using a different font, but the doepfer 'rules' for layout - http://port23.co.uk/synthdiy/ele4music/engraving.jpg ) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-14 by James Husted
Dieter- I was wondering if it would be possible to offer the files as Adobe Illustrator files also. I used to own Corel Draw and remember it could export in many other formats. Illustrator is more of a standard and can be imported into more vector drawing programs than Corel can. Illustrator used to be able to import Corel Draw files but seems to reject these files now. Thanks! -James James Husted The ErsatZ Planet Graphics and Sound http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ james.husted@mac.com "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money..."
On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:33 AM, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel Draw > for our > front panel printing. > > www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel Draw™ > file > A100_System.cdr > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer >
2006-09-14 by laryn91
After reading Dieter's reply yesterday, I tried and read the CDR file without any problems using Illustrator CS2. Maybe try again? --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@...> wrote: > > Dieter- > I was wondering if it would be possible to offer the files as Adobe > Illustrator files also. I used to own Corel Draw and remember it > could export in many other formats. Illustrator is more of a standard > and can be imported into more vector drawing programs than Corel can. > Illustrator used to be able to import Corel Draw files but seems to > reject these files now. Thanks! > > -James > > James Husted > The ErsatZ Planet Graphics and Sound > http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ > james.husted@... > > "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money..." > > > > On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:33 AM, hardware@... wrote: > > > Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel Draw > > for our > > front panel printing. > > > > www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel Draw
> > file > > A100_System.cdr > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer > > >
2006-09-14 by hardware@doepfer.de
James, we've tried this earlier but Corel Draw is hanging up during the Illustrator export. I've no idea what's wrong. Maybe it's because of the file size and one has to cut the file into several small parts (e.g. one frontpanel per file only). But to speak the truth I don't have the time to find it out. I think offering all A-100 front panels as a Corel Draw file is much more than other companies do ... All I can do is to export the file as different Corel Draw versions (6.0, 7.0 ...) . If you tell me which file version of Corel Draw is accepted by your AI (I don't have it) I can export this version or you. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von James Husted > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 04:05 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: customisation of front panels > > > Dieter- > I was wondering if it would be possible to offer the files as Adobe > Illustrator files also. I used to own Corel Draw and remember it > could export in many other formats. Illustrator is more of a standard > and can be imported into more vector drawing programs than Corel can. > Illustrator used to be able to import Corel Draw files but seems to > reject these files now. Thanks! > > -James > > James Husted > The ErsatZ Planet Graphics and Sound > http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ > james.husted@mac.com > > "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money..." > > > > On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:33 AM, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > > > Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel Draw > > for our > > front panel printing. > > > > www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel Draw™ > > file > > A100_System.cdr > > > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer
2006-09-14 by Julian
> But to speak the truth I don't have the time to find it out. I > think offering all A-100 front panels as a Corel Draw file is much more > than > other companies do ... Dieter, Ive been very impressed (not to mention almost a little supprised : ) with the help youve given me in the past. Yes, i do think its more than (a lot of) other companies do. I wanted to thank you once again for helping out the diy side of things! I realise it dosnt directly earn you money, so im very gratefull, and wanted to make it clear that it dosnt go unnoticed! (another example, recently was the information on proma - im sure most other companies would be very cagey about this. oh, and the free pcb give away of no so long ago too...) Julian
2006-09-14 by IZAM
cheers for info julian and also the link dieter .Can anyone recoemmend a screen printer in uk or europe ? I meant to also ask how does lasertran works ?
Julian <julian@22host24.com> wrote: Allan Hall did a lot of this kind of stuff (you still about allan? ; )
But heres a few comments -
If youre keeping the layout the same (i assume you have to because of the pcb mounted components) then why not just keep the metalwork also?
Youll need to remove the old ink. Some solvent or other will do, im sure.
Then you need to reapply the legend. If you really want to go to town, then screen print them (or get them screened) but a far cheaper approach is to use something like lasertran.
But, yes, youll still need your design. As Dieter said, the corel draw files are availible. You could start with these...
The knobs are, i think Rean, but you can only get black ones 'off the shelf' You can spray them easy enough, and then paint on the black line. (thanks again to Allan for telling me all this)
Julian
(mine are engraved using a different font, but the doepfer 'rules' for layout - http://port23.co.uk/synthdiy/ele4music/engraving.jpg )
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-09-14 by Julian
just pm'd you about the screen printing would anyone else be interested? it isnt cheap, but its somthing ive been looking into - if i can get enough pannels on the one screen it *may* be feasible. as for lasertran - its a specialy coated paper that you print onto with an inkjet (or, i hear better, a laser printer) you then slide off the coating, rather like those water transfers you used to get free in cerial boxs as a kid once the transfer is on the metal, i think you can bake or varnish or somthing. but google for lasertran transfer and you should get the info you need. julian [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-14 by hardware@doepfer.de
For prototypes we use a standard laserprinter (HP) to print the front panel layout to a self adhesive transparent foil available in office supply shops. Then the foil is trimmed to the right size and glued to the front panel. The required holes in the foil (for potentiometers, sockets, switches and so on) are cutted with a scalpel. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von IZAM > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 12:38 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: customisation of front panels > > > cheers for info julian and also the link dieter .Can anyone > recoemmend a screen printer in uk or europe ? I meant to also > ask how does lasertran works ? > > Julian <julian@22host24.com> wrote: Allan Hall did a lot > of this kind of stuff (you still about allan? ; ) > > But heres a few comments - > > If youre keeping the layout the same (i assume you have to > because of the pcb mounted components) then why not just keep the > metalwork also? > > Youll need to remove the old ink. Some solvent or other will do, im sure. > > Then you need to reapply the legend. If you really want to go to > town, then screen print them (or get them screened) but a far > cheaper approach is to use something like lasertran. > > But, yes, youll still need your design. As Dieter said, the corel > draw files are availible. You could start with these... > > The knobs are, i think Rean, but you can only get black ones 'off > the shelf' You can spray them easy enough, and then paint on the > black line. (thanks again to Allan for telling me all this) > > Julian > > (mine are engraved using a different font, but the doepfer > 'rules' for layout - > http://port23.co.uk/synthdiy/ele4music/engraving.jpg ) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our > SpamGuard protect you. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-14 by William Soraparu
All, question on tha A-191. Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? Manual refers to them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. Mahalo, William Hawaii --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-14 by hardware@doepfer.de
William, you find my answers below > All, question on tha A-191. > > Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the > Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 > 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! > > Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in > correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? It depends upon the operation mode. In the MCV mode they are all off. In the Shepard mode the lowest LED has to be on permanently. For the other two LEDs it depends if you have chosen the up, down or up/down mode. Details how to enter the different modes are described in the user's manual.
> Manual refers to > them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have > not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. > > Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 > is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. > > Mahalo, > > William > Hawaii > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-14 by James Husted
Yes - it worked. Sorry, no other formats needed. James Husted James.husted@mac.com http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money."
On Sep 13, 2006, at 9:53 PM, laryn91 wrote: > After reading Dieter's reply yesterday, I tried and read the CDR > file without any problems using Illustrator CS2. Maybe try again? > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@...> > wrote: >> >> Dieter- >> I was wondering if it would be possible to offer the files as > Adobe >> Illustrator files also. I used to own Corel Draw and remember it >> could export in many other formats. Illustrator is more of a > standard >> and can be imported into more vector drawing programs than Corel > can. >> Illustrator used to be able to import Corel Draw files but seems > to >> reject these files now. Thanks! >> >> -James >> >> James Husted >> The ErsatZ Planet Graphics and Sound >> http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ >> james.husted@... >> >> "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money..." >> >> >> >> On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:33 AM, hardware@... wrote: >> >>> Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel > Draw >>> for our >>> front panel printing. >>> >>> www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel > Draw™ >>> file >>> A100_System.cdr >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Dieter Doepfer >>> >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-14 by James Husted
I tried to do this again last night and it worked great. I guess the last time was a mistake or bad download. Illustrator CS2 worked fine - the typical wierdness with fonts going to the Mac format but still more than useful to me as a layout planner. I think last time I removed the .txt extension and the system was confused - Macs use the CDR extension for disc images. This time I just pointed Illustrator to the file directly. Thanks again! James Husted James.husted@mac.com http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money."
On Sep 14, 2006, at 2:28 AM, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > James, > > we've tried this earlier but Corel Draw is hanging up during the > Illustrator > export. I've no idea what's wrong. Maybe it's because of the file > size and > one has to cut the file into several small parts (e.g. one > frontpanel per > file only). But to speak the truth I don't have the time to find it > out. I > think offering all A-100 front panels as a Corel Draw file is much > more than > other companies do ... > > All I can do is to export the file as different Corel Draw versions > (6.0, > 7.0 ...) . If you tell me which file version of Corel Draw is > accepted by > your AI (I don't have it) I can export this version or you. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von James Husted >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 04:05 >> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: customisation of front panels >> >> >> Dieter- >> I was wondering if it would be possible to offer the files as Adobe >> Illustrator files also. I used to own Corel Draw and remember it >> could export in many other formats. Illustrator is more of a standard >> and can be imported into more vector drawing programs than Corel can. >> Illustrator used to be able to import Corel Draw files but seems to >> reject these files now. Thanks! >> >> -James >> >> James Husted >> The ErsatZ Planet Graphics and Sound >> http://homepage.mac.com/ersatzplanet/ >> james.husted@mac.com >> >> "Welcome to the first day of the rest of your money..." >> >> >> >> On Sep 12, 2006, at 2:33 AM, hardware@doepfer.de wrote: >> >>> Maybe our Corel Draw files will help you. So far we use Corel Draw >>> for our >>> front panel printing. >>> >>> www.doepfer.com > PRODUCTS > A-100 > Module overview > Corel Draw™ >>> file >>> A100_System.cdr >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Dieter Doepfer > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-15 by William Soraparu
All three LEDs stay on permanent. All the other modules are working fine off of that same bus board. hardware@doepfer.de wrote: William, you find my answers below > All, question on tha A-191. > > Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the > Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 > 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! > > Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in > correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? It depends upon the operation mode. In the MCV mode they are all off. In the Shepard mode the lowest LED has to be on permanently. For the other two LEDs it depends if you have chosen the up, down or up/down mode. Details how to enter the different modes are described in the user's manual. > Manual refers to > them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have > not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. > > Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 > is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. > > Mahalo, > > William > Hawaii > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-15 by William Soraparu
No matter what I do on the A-191...the three lower leds stay lit. I cannot change between the Sheppard and Midi to CV. Mahalo WIlliam hardware@doepfer.de wrote: William, you find my answers below > All, question on tha A-191. > > Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the > Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 > 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! > > Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in > correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? It depends upon the operation mode. In the MCV mode they are all off. In the Shepard mode the lowest LED has to be on permanently. For the other two LEDs it depends if you have chosen the up, down or up/down mode. Details how to enter the different modes are described in the user's manual. > Manual refers to > them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have > not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. > > Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 > is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. > > Mahalo, > > William > Hawaii > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-09-15 by hardware@doepfer.de
Provided that the additional +5V are OK the module has probably a fault. If you have another module that requires +5V too (A-190 or A-113) you may try if the +5V are OK. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von William Soraparu > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. September 2006 04:31 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-191 Question > > > No matter what I do on the A-191...the three lower leds stay lit. > I cannot change between the Sheppard and Midi to CV. > > Mahalo > > WIlliam > > hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > William, > > you find my answers below > > > All, question on tha A-191. > > > > Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the > > Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 > > 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! > > > > Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in > > correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? > > It depends upon the operation mode. In the MCV mode they are all > off. In the > Shepard mode the lowest LED has to be on permanently. For the > other two LEDs > it depends if you have chosen the up, down or up/down mode. > Details how to enter the different modes are described in the > user's manual. > > > Manual refers to > > them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have > > not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. > > > > Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 > > is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. > > > > Mahalo, > > > > William > > Hawaii > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >
2006-09-15 by William Soraparu
How can one check if the additional +5 volt works? Where would I check with a multi meter?
Mahalo
hardware@doepfer.de wrote:
Provided that the additional +5V are OK the module has probably a fault. If
you have another module that requires +5V too (A-190 or A-113) you may try
if the +5V are OK.
Best wishes
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> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von William Soraparu
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-09-15 by hardware@doepfer.de
You can check it e.g. with a multimeter. On the bus boards are flat connectors (at the right side) labelled GND and +5V. The voltage between these terminals has to be +5V. And there is another fast check: the third LED on the bus board has to light up if the +5V adapter is installed correctly. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von William Soraparu > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. September 2006 17:11 > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-191 Question > > > How can one check if the additional +5 volt works? Where would I > check with a multi meter? > > Mahalo > > hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > Provided that the additional +5V are OK the module has > probably a fault. If > you have another module that requires +5V too (A-190 or A-113) you may try > if the +5V are OK. > > Best wishes > Dieter Doepfer > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von William Soraparu > > Gesendet: Freitag, 15. September 2006 04:31 > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A-191 Question > > > > > > No matter what I do on the A-191...the three lower leds stay lit. > > I cannot change between the Sheppard and Midi to CV. > > > > Mahalo > > > > WIlliam > > > > hardware@doepfer.de wrote: > > William, > > > > you find my answers below > > > > > All, question on tha A-191. > > > > > > Prior to the installation of the A-191, I did plug into the > > > Doepfer bus the A100-AD5 > > > 5V Low-Cost Adapter. I plugged it in correctly :-)!!!! > > > > > > Now, with the system powered up, and the A-191 plugged in > > > correctly, should the lower 3 LEDs be on steady? > > > > It depends upon the operation mode. In the MCV mode they are all > > off. In the > > Shepard mode the lowest LED has to be on permanently. For the > > other two LEDs > > it depends if you have chosen the up, down or up/down mode. > > Details how to enter the different modes are described in the > > user's manual. > > > > > Manual refers to > > > them as number 8 when describing the controls on the panel. Have > > > not really tried the module yet. Will know more today. > > > > > > Everything else that is plugged into that bus, where the A-191 > > > is plugged, is working fine....and the bus is not over populated. > > > > > > Mahalo, > > > > > > William > > > Hawaii > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >