> hello dirk, > > well, i'm not sure, but after reading your answer > i think some of this could be normal behaviour. > the dry/wet control is a linear crossfade and not > an "equal power" crossfade, so you have a level drop > at the center position, this is normal. the bbd output > is not of the same loudness than the input signal > (or dry signal), but that is also normal. almost all > modules alter the loudness in some ways. > thats why i suggested that you compare the level of > your bbd module with the output of a filter (which > usually alters the signal loudness too). > > strange is that the lowest level on your bbd > is not when the mix knob is in center position, > and that the output is inverted. > > dieter, maybe you can chime in and help us? OK, here is my comment. 1. The output levels of the six different BBD circuits (128...4096 stages/MN3xxx) are a bit different. Consequently the A-188-1 modules with different stages and circuits behave a bit different. Even BBD circuits with the same number of stages but different circuit types (e.g. 256 stage BBD circuits MN3009 and MN3209) are a bit different. 2. The output impedance of the A-188-1 is about 5k. It's because the mix between the original and BBD signal is made with a linear 10k potentiometer with the original signal on one terminal and the BBD signal on the other terminal. The center terminal is the module output. Consequently in the leftmost or rightmost position the signals (original or pure BBD) appear without additional serial resistance as the potentiometer is at one of it's end positions. In the center position the two signals are mixed via 5kOhm each (10k/2 = 5k). This is why the level becomes a bit lower in the center position. It depends upon the ouputload how much the level decreases. As most A-100 modules have a 50k potentiometer at the audio input the level drop will be about 10% (5k/50k). If the A-188-2 output is connected to a load less than 50k the level drop may be more. We think about an additional circuit on the board that compensates the level changes. But as the is no more space on the pc board a complete redesign would be necessary. 3. The original signal appears indeed inverted at the output. But as the module has a polarity switch for the BBD signal an additonal polarity switch for the original signal would not add new features. It would have been possible to plan a polarity switch for the original signal instead for the BBD signal but the audible effect would be the same. I can't see any application where the non-inverted original signal would be necessary. Best wishes Dieter Doepfer
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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Low output level A-188-1 4096 stages
2006-11-13 by hardware@doepfer.de
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