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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?

2008-01-30 by James Husted

I used to own two Synthi AKS and a VCS3 - the biggest mistake in my  
synth buying/selling history was selling them. I have since tried to  
get the same feeling and function from similar modulars from the  
different eurorack manufacturers (+40 modules and growing). The main  
thing I have discovered that made the difference to my patches  
(mainly raygun-from-mars type sounds) is the large difference in  
control voltage sensitivity between the EMS and current modules. The  
EMS's VCO .32V/Oct response makes a ton of difference when a LFO or  
other CV is modulating. The joystick or LFO can easily sweep the VCO  
from sub-to-super audio on a AKS for instance. For me the sound of  
the VCO and VCF can probably be matched closely (at least as closely  
as AKSs match each other), but as Michael says it is a lot harder to  
match the way the modules behave together. I'm sure with some  
modification current offerings would get closer, but straight from  
the factory they don't match for me. On the other hand current  
modules stay in tune and work well with each other when all use the  
same 1 V/Oct so that is a huge benefit.

-James

On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:03 AM, michaeltritter wrote:

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> i have a synthi A and the RS500 and 510. i know that the 500 filter  
> is supposed to be an
> exact rebuild of the synthi filters -- i don't think it quite  
> matches the behavior, but it's
> still pretty good -- but since much of the charm of the synthi for  
> me is its essential
> nastiness, i found that half of getting the synthi vibe out of the  
> 500 filter module lies less
> in what oscillator i ran into it than in overdriving the input (and  
> output) to distort. the
> trapezoid module and a joystick (AS or doepfer) go a long way  
> toward a nice simulation
> (yes also the model 14).
>
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> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...>  
> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> with the RS95e Oscs you will be as near as possible to the EMS  
>> sound source,
>> but without the RS500e you will have no chance to build the basics  
>> for
>> the typical sound.
>> Further I recommend the RS510e Trapezoid Generator and a Plan B  
>> Model 14
>> Dual
>> Control Processor.
>>
>> best regards
>> Axel
>>
>> johnppp2 schrieb:
>>>
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> I'm new here so hello all. I've had a search and read up on the EMS
>>> filters and the like but i'm trying to put together my first system,
>>> and i'd like to get the closest to the EMS VCO's that i can. Its  
>>> more
>>> the sound than any of the specific features so any suggestions are
>>> very welcome. What's out there at the moment?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>
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