Axel- I have two Doepfer portable cabinets and one is devoted to being a AKS clone. It is a mix of AS and Doepfer. I have gotten really close to the old AKS sound - in fact it has been so long that the memories I have of my AKS's sound may be better in my head than the really were! Anyway I am happy with my setup - it is not as fast as the matrix on the EMS, and not as clean looking, but there are so many more modules to choose from that I won't be tired of it very soon. I selling my Nord G3 to buy more modules soon. I will be looking into Plan-B soon and a few more AS joysticks will be cool to. The portable Doepfer cases are VERY sweet and seem more road worthy than the old AKS. -James On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Axel Jungkunst wrote: > Hi James, > years ago I used two AKS and one VCS3 with DK1 Keyboards, Octave > Filter > Bank, > Octave Divider, Pitch To Voltage Converter and so on....and now I > apologize to > have nothing from that all. ;-) > A simple Synthi A ist too expensive meanwhile. > But the "EMS" soundscenes I want to build are possible with > some of my ASys, Doepfer and Plan B modules. > Not quite 100 %, but for my impression it is near enough to me. > all the best > Axel > > James Husted schrieb: >> >> I used to own two Synthi AKS and a VCS3 - the biggest mistake in my >> synth buying/selling history was selling them. I have since tried to >> get the same feeling and function from similar modulars from the >> different eurorack manufacturers (+40 modules and growing). The main >> thing I have discovered that made the difference to my patches >> (mainly raygun-from-mars type sounds) is the large difference in >> control voltage sensitivity between the EMS and current modules. The >> EMS's VCO .32V/Oct response makes a ton of difference when a LFO or >> other CV is modulating. The joystick or LFO can easily sweep the VCO >> from sub-to-super audio on a AKS for instance. For me the sound of >> the VCO and VCF can probably be matched closely (at least as closely >> as AKSs match each other), but as Michael says it is a lot harder to >> match the way the modules behave together. I'm sure with some >> modification current offerings would get closer, but straight from >> the factory they don't match for me. On the other hand current >> modules stay in tune and work well with each other when all use the >> same 1 V/Oct so that is a huge benefit. >> >> -James >> >> On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:03 AM, michaeltritter wrote: >> >>> >>> i have a synthi A and the RS500 and 510. i know that the 500 filter >>> is supposed to be an >>> exact rebuild of the synthi filters -- i don't think it quite >>> matches the behavior, but it's >>> still pretty good -- but since much of the charm of the synthi for >>> me is its essential >>> nastiness, i found that half of getting the synthi vibe out of the >>> 500 filter module lies less >>> in what oscillator i ran into it than in overdriving the input (and >>> output) to distort. the >>> trapezoid module and a joystick (AS or doepfer) go a long way >>> toward a nice simulation >>> (yes also the model 14). >>> >>> >>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> with the RS95e Oscs you will be as near as possible to the EMS >>>> sound source, >>>> but without the RS500e you will have no chance to build the basics >>>> for >>>> the typical sound. >>>> Further I recommend the RS510e Trapezoid Generator and a Plan B >>>> Model 14 >>>> Dual >>>> Control Processor. >>>> >>>> best regards >>>> Axel >>>> >>>> johnppp2 schrieb: >>>>> >>>>> Hi there >>>>> >>>>> I'm new here so hello all. I've had a search and read up on the >>>>> EMS >>>>> filters and the like but i'm trying to put together my first >>>>> system, >>>>> and i'd like to get the closest to the EMS VCO's that i can. Its >>>>> more >>>>> the sound than any of the specific features so any suggestions are >>>>> very welcome. What's out there at the moment? >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
2008-01-30 by James Husted
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