Hi James, I'm also glad about my modular and it still grows. I remember my AKS/VCS3-Synths as noise machines, hard to tune and not really able to produce very good playable sounds. With my choice to sell them und to build up a more flexible modular system I am very happy. Leading is Doepfer, followed by ASys (just bought the RS215 and waiting for a RS95e and a RS430) and in addition Plan B, Cwejman and Cyndustries. I don't really need an EMS, the wanted soundscapes are patchable and they are sounding as good as the original does, leaving the last 2 percents of puristic sounds behind :-) Lets do it with our modules! Axel James Husted schrieb: > > Axel- > I have two Doepfer portable cabinets and one is devoted to being a > AKS clone. It is a mix of AS and Doepfer. I have gotten really close > to the old AKS sound - in fact it has been so long that the memories > I have of my AKS's sound may be better in my head than the really > were! Anyway I am happy with my setup - it is not as fast as the > matrix on the EMS, and not as clean looking, but there are so many > more modules to choose from that I won't be tired of it very soon. I > selling my Nord G3 to buy more modules soon. I will be looking into > Plan-B soon and a few more AS joysticks will be cool to. The portable > Doepfer cases are VERY sweet and seem more road worthy than the old AKS. > -James > > On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Axel Jungkunst wrote: > > > Hi James, > > years ago I used two AKS and one VCS3 with DK1 Keyboards, Octave > > Filter > > Bank, > > Octave Divider, Pitch To Voltage Converter and so on....and now I > > apologize to > > have nothing from that all. ;-) > > A simple Synthi A ist too expensive meanwhile. > > But the "EMS" soundscenes I want to build are possible with > > some of my ASys, Doepfer and Plan B modules. > > Not quite 100 %, but for my impression it is near enough to me. > > all the best > > Axel > > > > James Husted schrieb: > >> > >> I used to own two Synthi AKS and a VCS3 - the biggest mistake in my > >> synth buying/selling history was selling them. I have since tried to > >> get the same feeling and function from similar modulars from the > >> different eurorack manufacturers (+40 modules and growing). The main > >> thing I have discovered that made the difference to my patches > >> (mainly raygun-from-mars type sounds) is the large difference in > >> control voltage sensitivity between the EMS and current modules. The > >> EMS's VCO .32V/Oct response makes a ton of difference when a LFO or > >> other CV is modulating. The joystick or LFO can easily sweep the VCO > >> from sub-to-super audio on a AKS for instance. For me the sound of > >> the VCO and VCF can probably be matched closely (at least as closely > >> as AKSs match each other), but as Michael says it is a lot harder to > >> match the way the modules behave together. I'm sure with some > >> modification current offerings would get closer, but straight from > >> the factory they don't match for me. On the other hand current > >> modules stay in tune and work well with each other when all use the > >> same 1 V/Oct so that is a huge benefit. > >> > >> -James > >> > >> On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:03 AM, michaeltritter wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> i have a synthi A and the RS500 and 510. i know that the 500 filter > >>> is supposed to be an > >>> exact rebuild of the synthi filters -- i don't think it quite > >>> matches the behavior, but it's > >>> still pretty good -- but since much of the charm of the synthi for > >>> me is its essential > >>> nastiness, i found that half of getting the synthi vibe out of the > >>> 500 filter module lies less > >>> in what oscillator i ran into it than in overdriving the input (and > >>> output) to distort. the > >>> trapezoid module and a joystick (AS or doepfer) go a long way > >>> toward a nice simulation > >>> (yes also the model 14). > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > >> <mailto:Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, Axel Jungkunst <phaedra@...> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> with the RS95e Oscs you will be as near as possible to the EMS > >>>> sound source, > >>>> but without the RS500e you will have no chance to build the basics > >>>> for > >>>> the typical sound. > >>>> Further I recommend the RS510e Trapezoid Generator and a Plan B > >>>> Model 14 > >>>> Dual > >>>> Control Processor. > >>>> > >>>> best regards > >>>> Axel > >>>> > >>>> johnppp2 schrieb: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi there > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm new here so hello all. I've had a search and read up on the > >>>>> EMS > >>>>> filters and the like but i'm trying to put together my first > >>>>> system, > >>>>> and i'd like to get the closest to the EMS VCO's that i can. Its > >>>>> more > >>>>> the sound than any of the specific features so any suggestions are > >>>>> very welcome. What's out there at the moment? > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
2008-01-30 by Axel Jungkunst
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