Doepfer

cause it seems a real nightmare to me, trying to short
out the banana to banana, minijack to banana and
minijack to minijack cables out of a cablemesh of
hundreds of patchcords (really!).
as my set-up is now, i only have to short out the
banana's from the minijack cables and that is much
easier...

--- Anthony Rolando <goldenechos@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> So all you would need is a 4HP panel in the Doepfer
> case the took system gnd to a black banana socket. 
> This saves alot of money, cables and space Bakis,
> why would you prefer to do it with banana to mini
> panels?
> 
> Additionally, on complex patches, tracing cables
> would be easier.
> 
> TOny
> 
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > From: synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com
> > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 05:33:42 -0700
> > Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Serge compatability ?
> > 
> > btw, the serge psu has a black banana ground input
> on
> > the back of it, so you do not need to make a
> ground
> > banana socket in the serge modular at all. that's
> how
> > you could ground the Serge psu to other serge
> psu's,
> > or to other modular makers psu's.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Anthony Rolando <goldenechos@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Bakis was sayin that you need alot of banana to
> > > mini-jack panels. I disagree with this. I think
> a
> > > more economical solution (with regards to both
> space
> > > and money) would be to have a single 4hp system
> gnd 
> > > panel. This module would connect to the doepfer
> > > powerbus and bring system GND to the panel via a
> > > banana socket. Have a system GND socket added to
> the
> > > front panel of your serge system (very simple
> > > modification) and connect the two via a single
> > > banana cable. GND is now shared.
> > > 
> > > This method saves precious HP, allows you to use
> > > FEWER cables to patch between systems, and allow
> you
> > > to use Banana to mini-jack cables. These would
> have
> > > only the TIP of the mini-jack connected to the
> > > single element on the banana jack. 
> > > 
> > > Tony
> > > 
> > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > From: synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com
> > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 17:47:38 -0700
> > > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Serge
> compatability ?
> > > > 
> > > > me too.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- implode7@comcast.net wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually, that's very good to know, since
> I'm
> > > > > building a modcan/cynthia/serge system. I
> very
> > > much
> > > > > like the metalbox stuff.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  -------------- Original message
> > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > From: Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > yes, Metalbox does banana version modules,
> if
> > > you
> > > > > > want.
> > > > > > i have some banana metalbox modules...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- implode7@comcast.net wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Metalbox is frac rac, isn't it - mini
> jacks,
> > > not
> > > > > > > bananas...unless he does those also.
> > > > > > >  -------------- Original message
> > > > > > > ----------------------
> > > > > > > From: Guy D2 <guy@guyd2.com>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Has anyone any experience with or
> ideas
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > the wisdom of
> > > > > > > > > interfacing Doepfer modules with as
> > > Serge
> > > > > system
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. It seems that Doepfer audio
> modules
> > > run
> > > > > at 5
> > > > > > > volts peak to peak
> > > > > > > > > (-2.5v to +2.5v ?) - like the Serge
> -
> > > and
> > > > > uses
> > > > > > > bananna plugs too, so
> > > > > > > > > great, right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Doepfer uses 3mm (mini) phonejacks,
> not
> > > > > banana's.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 2. How about Panel Size?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doepfer : 3U
> > > > > > > > Serge: 4U
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Not really compatible, hardware-wise.
> Two
> > > > > > > different beasts...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 3. Power supply?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doepfer does both 115/230V AC
> > > > > > > > Doepfer DC rail: +/- 12V (opt: + 5V)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 4. Any other problems anyone can
> forsee?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Don't know the electrical specs of the
> > > Serge
> > > > > > > systems,
> > > > > > > > but I'd look seriously into the
> > > gate/trigger
> > > > > > > voltages
> > > > > > > > before hooking both up.
> > > > > > > > Most current modulars are electrically
> > > > > compatible
> > > > > > > > (their CV/audio signals, and gates
> mostly
> > > > > too),
> > > > > > > > but not always 100%.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Often not a real problem, but be
> careful
> > > in
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > instances.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Finally, are ther other modular
> systems
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > > is aware of that would
> > > > > > > > > seem to be compaable with Serge?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > MetalBox, Cynthia and ModCan A series
> all
> > > use
> > > > > > > banana jacks,
> > > > > > > > and are more or less compatible with
> > > Serge.
> > > > > Buchla
> > > > > > > too...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I guess our list moderator (Bakis) can
> > > tell
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > all about this,
> > > > > > > > since he owns all of the modules of
> all of
> > > the
> > > > > > > systems... ;-)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Personally, when thinking about
> > > crossbreeding
> > > > > > > Doepfer with
> > > > > > > > othe modulars, Serge is not the first
> > > system
> > > > > > > coming to my mind...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On a sidenote:
> > > > > > > > I've been working on a complete
> > > list/database
> 
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