Doepfer

hi adam,
 it will truly distort when you turn the input knob at
more than the 5 position but,to my ears, the sound of
the new a131 is different, i find it more
harsh,regardless of the position of the input knob...i
don't know why...i prefer the sound of the a132.sorry
but i don't know the difference between soft and hard
clipping.
bakis.



--- adamburr1973 <adamb@blueskystudios.com> wrote:
> Can the new a131 sound clean if you turn down the
> input level or does 
> it always distort? Is the distortion a hard clip or
> a soft clip?
> 
> Adam.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi tim,
> > what i have found so far:i had some new
> > a131(v2.2001).i noticed that if you turn the input
> > knob all the way up the output uis much louder
> than
> > the older a131's and it is distorted too...dieter
> told
> > me that they made the new a131 this way because
> many
> > customres asked for distorted sound without the
> use of
> > the a136(!!!!?????).but to my ears this distortion
> > doesn't sound good.i find the sound of the new
> a131'as
> > to be more harsh.the older a131's had a more warm
> > sound that i liked best.similar warm sounding is
> the
> > a132 too,so i use the a132 for audio from now
> on...
> > about the a130:i don't have any new a130's so,i
> can't
> > make any comments about their sound...but i find
> it
> > really annoying for the new a131's to have that
> harsh
> > sound and to give you distortion without me asking
> for
> > it!!i preferd the old ones!!!!dieter told me that
> the
> > older a131 that used the curtis chips, now they
> would
> > be more expensive because the price of the curtis
> CEM
> > chip used in these a131's are much higher
> > now...(damn!!!!).so,i'll settle for the
> > a132's........the a132's ,despite the fact that
> they
> > use the same RCA chips as the new a131's, they
> don't
> > sound harsh but warm like the old a131's,i really
> > don't know why...
> > of course that's only MY opinion.
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Stinchcombe Timothy <tstinchcombe@q...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Bakis
> > > 
> > > > HMMM.....interesting...i hadn't notice that
> adsr
> > > > clipping that you mention...anyway,my
> favourite
> > > vca's
> > > 
> > > Discovering the similar problem with the 140
> into
> > > the CV1 socket of the 131 when I first got my
> > > oscilloscope made me realise what an invaluable
> > > piece of kit it is (especially for the A-136 -
> my
> > > hat off to those who use that module without
> one..
> > > but then we've had that discussion before!). It
> took
> > > quite a lot of experimentation with a 'slow'
> > > envelope to be able to *hear* the effect (rather
> > > than see it on the 'scope), i.e. the volume
> > > levelling off for a period and then starting to
> > > drop, rather than continually increasing in
> 'attack'
> > > and immediately decreasing on 'decay'. I now
> always
> > > use the 140 into CV2 with the pot set at about
> 6.
> > > 
> > > > in terms of sound is the A132!!!because of the
> > > > different sound of the new versions of the
> > > a130/a131
> > > > vca's.the A132 haven't been changed,and it
> sounds
> > > > warmer ,to my ears,of course...so,i use the
> a132
> > > for
> > > > audio and cv signals.any opinions about that
> > > > difference in sound of the new version(v.2
> ,2001)
> > > > a130/a131???
> > > 
> > > The old 130/131 used the Curtis (CEM) PA381/382
> VCA
> > > chips, which were presumably specifically
> designed
> > > to have nice characteristics for audio. The 132
> uses
> > > the RCA CA3080 chip, which is probably why it
> sounds
> > > different. My 131 *is* the re-designed one
> (marked
> > > v2, 2001), and it now also uses the 3080 chip,
> so
> > > I'm guessing it will sound similar to the 132. I
> > > don't know that I'm a sophisticated enough user
> to
> > > be able to hear the difference, but I'll have a
> go
> > > at the weekend!
> > > 
> > > My 130 has a PA381 chip, so I guess its an 'old'
> one
> > > - its marked 'v2, 1996', so I'm assuming that
> the
> > > new one, if/when it exists, will be 'v3'. I
> would be
> > > interested to hear from anyone else if they have
> a
> > > 'v3' 130, and whether my assumption that it must
> > > also use the 3080 chip is correct or not. (Some
> of
> > > this is from memory, so I'll correct on Monday
> if
> > > its found to be lacking...!)
> > > 
> > > I also agree with Joe, I find the 132 real nice
> to
> > > use for varying modulation depth, and as it is
> DC
> > > coupled (unlike old 130) I occasionally use it
> to
> > > 'multiply' CVs too...
> > > 
> > > Tim
> > > 
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