I would not expect too much from the A115 if I were you... I made some exaples of the A115. http://ernstvanderloo.com/Doepfer/A115-speech.mp3 Is some speech from an audio book through the A115. I'm having the original signal at 100% al the time. Slowly adding one octave below, taking it out, slowly taking in 2 octaves below etc. At the end you hear a mixture of all the signals at the same time. http://ernstvanderloo.com/Doepfer/A115-sine.mp3 Is a sinetone from the A143-9 as input. I'm doing the same as in the other mp3. Why the A143-9 for this example? Because it's the cleanest sine tone a Doepfer module can generate. These example are very dull and academic but I guess it shows you what the A115 can do. Greetings, Ernst On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 2:24 AM, techmaster242 <techmaster@gmail.com> wrote: > The A-102 and A-124 sound amazing. Equally as aggressive as the > Polivoks, and less than half the price. I'm 100% positive my problem > doesn't lie in the filters. It's what I'm putting into them. > > Everybody is saying to get an A-137, but I already have one. LOL I'm > kind of confused though, because if you fold a saw wave, you basically > get a ramp wave, but with lower amperage. If you fold a square wave, > you get a square wave, once again with lower amperage. You basically > can't fold any wave with vertical elements, so you're stuck with > folding triangle and sine waves, and neither one sounds very > spectacular to me. Honestly, I bought the A-137 to be a drum effects > unit, and it is no slouch in that department. I absolutely love it > for effecting drums. > > When you all say to sync the VCO's, what do I sync them to? Do I > split the gate and sync them both to that? Or run, say, VCO1's square > into VCA2's sync input? I've already played with syncing the LFO to a > VCO, and that fattens things up a bit, I just want more. :) If I > tune both VCO's the same, and set their octave switches one octave > apart, it sounds a bit thicker, since the sound covered two octaves > instead of one, so I'm thinking the A-115 will give me the same > benefit, freeing up the second VCO to simply reinforce what the first > VCO is playing. > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com>, > "argitoth" <argitoth@...> wrote: > > > > I think you need to step back and really think about what kind of > > sound you're trying to create with your synth. What you seem to lack > > may be physical (not the right module) and it may also be mental (your > > understanding of how to create X sound). > > > > First thing I noticed is that you don't have a VC ADSR. However, you > > can get similar effects by combining two ADSRs into the same input. > > You can get really snappy envelopes that way. You can also get a > > snappy sound by sending one envelope to modulate the pitch of an osc > > and the other to modulate the filter. Another thing about ADSRs is > > that you should make use of the sustain and release to create nice > > envelope shapes. > > > > I think if your $2000 synth doesn't sound like $2000 it could be your > > quality of filters. I would love to hear the A-102 and A-124. I know > > the Polivoks it good... well that's what everyone says. > > > > Second thing is that you should understand how to make your synth > > scream. Bandpass and notch is where it's at! I used to think lowpass > > filters make synths scream. I was wrong! Create feedback patches by > > multiplying a filter's output to go into itself with a saw wave and > > out to your speaker, use notch or bandpass. Now invert the signal > > going back into the filter... it's really confusing IMO. But it > > doesn't look like any of your modules can invert a signal. > > > > Here's how the Model 12 sounds with inverted feedback: > > http://www.elanhickler.com/misc/model_12_scream2.mp3 > > > > Another thing is that you don't have any real way to create the > > classic screamy sync sound. Actually, you can use an envelope. Patch > > it into the pitch control instead of patching your CV1 from your midi > > module. Turn release, decay, and attack to 0. Use the sustain knob to > > manually modulate the pitch. > > > > Lastly, a few modules have already been suggested; the A-137 and A- > > 188. Those modules are good to have, yes, but I don't think they move > > your synth in the immediate direction you want to go, and that is fat > > and hard sounds. What I suggest is an oakley overdrive to help your > > filters scream: http://www.oakleysound.co.uk/overdrv.htm You need to > > ask the oakley guy if he can make you a eurorack overdrive. It may > > take a little more than a month for you to get it. I ordered my own > > just yesterday. > > > > I would suggest a saw animator to create supersaw sounds, but it looks > > like there's none available. E-mail Cynthia about it: > http://www.cyndustries.com/modules_sawtooth.cfm > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What am I missing?
2008-10-24 by achtung_999
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