The modulator and carrier have to stay exactly in tune with each other, that's the problem. On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>wrote: > that is, probably, because your vco's do not have linear fm, am i right? > for fm-type sounds (fm'ed sounds that retain their fundamental pitch, you > need linear fm and not exponential fm). > after that, of course you have to attenuate the fm amount (fm index), > otherwise you'll get too many extra, upper and lower, sinewaves (harmonics). > > and no need to say that you have to strat with rather 'pure' sounds > (sinewaves or triangles). > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > www. parallel - worlds - music. com > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist > www. DiN. org. uk > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com > www. shimarecords. co. uk > www. rubberrecords. gr > Athens - Greece > > --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Argitoth <argitoth@gmail.com <argitoth%40gmail.com>> > wrote: > > > From: Argitoth <argitoth@gmail.com <argitoth%40gmail.com>> > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What am I missing? > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 3:24 AM > > > You can definitely create new harmonics syncing VCOs and > > routing them all > > crazy places, but I just can't seem to get a FM-type > > sound... like I have to > > use a filter to reduce harmonics instead of reducing a > > modulation. > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Chris Jones > > <techmaster@gmail.com <techmaster%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > I know one thing that drives me nuts, is when I use an > > LFO for > > > modulation...it'll sound great when playing one > > note, but as soon as > > > you shift to another note, the LFO is no longer in > > harmony and it > > > sounds terrible. I personally feel that LFO's are > > terrible for > > > modulation, and lately I've been learning that > > running your oscillator > > > into a multiple and using the split oscillations to > > modulate various > > > things, can sound way better, since it's always in > > tune/harmony. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Argitoth > > <argitoth@gmail.com <argitoth%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > So what module would be best for adding harmonics > > or getting some kind of > > > FM > > > > sounds? Is it the PLL or the Wave Multiplier or > > neither? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Chris Jones > > <techmaster@gmail.com <techmaster%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I already have the wasp and love it. :) I > > can't decide if I like > > > >> that or the Polivoks more, which is nuts > > considering the Polivoks was > > > >> like 3x as much money. > > > >> > > > >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Anthony > > Rolando > > > >> <goldenechos@hotmail.com <goldenechos%40hotmail.com>> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Good point, if you put a VCA in FRONT of > > that waveshaper you will find > > > >> that you will be able to get more out of > > it... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Additionally, I wanted to mention the > > Doepfer A-124 Wasp style filter. > > > >> > This filter can be VERY mean, even a bit > > deranged. It is inexpensive, > > > has > > > >> multiple outs. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Lastly the Doepfer A-196 PLL. When used > > as a signal processor this one > > > >> gets real nasty. Perhaps too much so! > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > TOny > > > >> > > > > >> >> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com<Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > > >> >> From: jari.jokinen@netikka.fi <jari.jokinen%40netikka.fi> > > > >> >> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:59:25 > > +0000 > > > >> >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What am > > I missing? > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Only one VCA and one mixer? > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Maybe consider A-132-3 Dual > > linear/exponential VCA and A-138c > > > >> >> Polarizing Mixer. > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> ------------------------------------ > > > >> >> > > > >> >> Yahoo! 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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: What am I missing?
2008-10-25 by Argitoth
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