I think that's a good way to put it. I understand what I have pretty well, I'm not totally new to how synthesis works. I've worked with virtual analog for quite a few years now, but this is my first real venture into true analog, and don't get me wrong, I definitely think my modular sounds amazing. To me, using a modular isn't even about knowing how each module works, but about trying to figure out ways that the modules DON'T work, and forcing them to do it anyways. ;) Wiring things in weird ways to yield unpredictable results. One thing that I think limits me somewhat is that I only have two oscillators. You can have oscillators covering multiple octaves to fatten it up a bit, but it's still good to have a couple oscillators playing the same note to get the waves to beat against each other a bit, to liven the sound up. With two oscillators, I can't have it both ways, it's either set them to the same octave, or set them to different octaves. I'm thinking the A-115 might free them up from that duty so that I can have the two oscillators beating each other. But, I do like the idea that somebody suggested about getting a make noise mod-demod and using it to ringmod a VCO against itself. Some people asked for some demo's of what I've been doing, just go here to check it out: http://www.myspace.com/doomsdaytechnologies Modular Experiment is a patch I just put together to give you an idea of what I've been doing with it lately. Modular Preview...the first half of it I believe was a softsynth, and the modular kicks in right at the midway point. This was done back when I only had about 6 modules. New Sample Track is probably about 7-8 modules being used to modulate an incoming sound from a Casio VL-1. (if you're not familiar with one of these, it's a $20 toy synth from the 80's and it sounds awful) The results were pretty wild. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Argitoth <argitoth@...> wrote: > > I disagree with Sean a little bit. But I agree with Synth Freak. The reason > you are asking to get advice on modules you want shows that you don't know > what you want. I guess that's a problem in itself, but there are some basic > modules that anyone will benefit from having. > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Bakis Sirros > <synth_freak_2000@...>wrote: > > > Sean is right. > > invest time and effort to learn your modules first. > > then you'll see what other modules you might need. > > > > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist > > www. DiN. org. uk > > www. musicamaximamagnetica. com > > www. shimarecords. co. uk > > www. rubberrecords. gr > > Athens - Greece > > > > --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Sean Williams <sean@...<sean%40artifactrecords.com>> > > wrote: > > > > From: Sean Williams <sean@... <sean%40artifactrecords.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] What am I missing? > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com <Doepfer_a100%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 8:57 PM > > > > It seems to me that what you are missing is the time and patience to > > learn how each module works. You might also - dare I say it - have > > TOO MANY modules! I've seen it time and time again: people buying a > > whole lot of kit and expecting miracles without a full and deep > > understanding of each and every piece of kit. > > > > Sure, you may get some lucky results by random patching, but you > > can't hope to deliberately design a sound without putting in the time > > and effort to learn what each module does. > > > > A good start is the Korg MS-10 manual: > > > > http://www.korganal ogue.net/ korgms/manuals/ ms10/m1001. html > > > > > > Buying new modules at this stage would only be multiplying your > > problems. Stick to what you've got and learn how that works first. > > I've made records with fewer modules than you've got! > > > > best of luck > > > > sean > > > > >Here is my modular as of now: > > > > > >A110 - VCO > > >A110 - VCO > > >A145 - LFO1 > > >A146 - LFO2 > > >A138b - Log Mixer > > >A140 - ADSR > > >A140 - ADSR > > >A131 - Exp. VCA > > >A180 - Multiples > > >A180 - Multiples > > >A190 - MIDI Interface > > >A102 - Diode LPF > > >A124 - WASP Filter > > >A137 - Wave Multiplier > > >Polivoks - Russian LPF/BPF > > > > > >This is all in a mahogany case that I made, very similar to the > > >Doepfer suitcase, using the DIY kit. > > > > > >Here's the deal, I have some more room left, but not a lot. It's > > >definitely starting to fill up, so I need to be careful about what > > >else I put in this thing, that it will truly be useful. So far, this > > >thing sounds pretty good, but I have to be honest. It does not sound > > >like a $2000 synth, which is about what I've put into it so far, but I > > >know what these things are capable of, so I have to be missing some > > >key element to fatten it up. Right off the bat, I'm thinking I need > > >the A-115 divider/suboscillat or module. But is that it? If it helps, > > >I am making industrial music, so thick, harsh sounds are my goal. Is > > >the A-115 the key element that will make this thing make people go > > >"WOW that sounds awesome!" or is there something else I need to add as > > >well? > > > > > >Also, if it is indeed the A-115 that I'm needing, where would you > > >"typically" patch that in? Do you bring two oscillators into a mixer, > > >then sub-oscillate the mixed signal? Or do you just sub-oscillate one > > >oscillator, pre-mixer? > > >Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.elanhickler.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Re: What am I missing?
2008-10-25 by techmaster242
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