Ummm, there's nothing "buzzy" about the sine in the Z3000. I think that word was being used in the thread for another VCO. ----- laryn91 (09:34 AM 11/25/2008) wrote: >I don't think anyone is advocating that VCOs should produce a "perfect" sine. >Just simply a clean wave what has no audible buzz or distortion. That 's >what defines a >sine - just the fundamental component. Anything else is NOT A SINE WAVE. > >It seems either ignorant, sloppy or misleading for a manufacturer to >intentionally make a >buzzy wave and then spec it as "sine" wave. At the very least label it >something more >accurate like "buzzy wave beta testers like" ;-) > >You can always start with a clean sine and add distortion as needed, but you >can't go the >other way and cleanly remove the buzz to get a decent sine. I'm guessing >those >rationalizing against the usefulness of clean sine waves for music synthesis >have never >even used one (since nobody seems to make them anymore...). > > >--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark@...> wrote: >> >> >> Hi James; >> >> Tiptop didn't set out to make a perfect sine - in fact, one of the >> things that the testers talked about during beta was just how >> wonderful this sine _sounds_. I agree that I wouldn't use this sine as >> a LFO source for the perfect panner or some-such, but you really >> should hear this one in a track. >> >> And to that point, the sound of this module (specifically the sine) >> doesn't have as much to do with the sine itself, but how the VCO gets >> you between pitches. :) That's what you really wanna hear. >> >> I (and I figure most of us here) have a LOT of VCOs in their system. >> They each have their place, and sometimes many places. The Tiptop has >> created it's niche too. :) >> >> Mark >> ----- >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@> >> wrote: >> > >> > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it. >> > - http://vimeo.com/2206614 >> > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display >> > shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on >> > the spectrum display. >> > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?
2008-11-25 by Mark Pulver
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