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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-25 by Mark Pulver

Ummm, there's nothing "buzzy" about the sine in the Z3000. I think that 
word was being used in the thread for another VCO.

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laryn91 (09:34 AM 11/25/2008) wrote:
 >I don't think anyone is advocating that VCOs should produce a "perfect" 
sine.
 >Just simply a clean wave what has no audible buzz or distortion. That 's
 >what defines a
 >sine - just the fundamental component. Anything else is NOT A SINE WAVE.
 >
 >It seems either ignorant, sloppy or misleading for a manufacturer to
 >intentionally make a
 >buzzy wave and then spec it as "sine" wave. At the very least label it
 >something more
 >accurate like "buzzy wave beta testers like" ;-)
 >
 >You can always start with a clean sine and add distortion as needed, but you
 >can't go the
 >other way and cleanly remove the buzz  to get a decent sine. I'm guessing
 >those
 >rationalizing against the usefulness of clean sine waves for music synthesis
 >have never
 >even used one (since nobody seems to make them anymore...).
 >
 >
 >--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mark@...> wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> Hi James;
 >>
 >> Tiptop didn't set out to make a perfect sine - in fact, one of the
 >> things that the testers talked about during beta was just how
 >> wonderful this sine _sounds_. I agree that I wouldn't use this sine as
 >> a LFO source for the perfect panner or some-such, but you really
 >> should hear this one in a track.
 >>
 >> And to that point, the sound of this module (specifically the sine)
 >> doesn't have as much to do with the sine itself, but how the VCO gets
 >> you between pitches. :) That's what you really wanna hear.
 >>
 >> I (and I figure most of us here) have a LOT of VCOs in their system.
 >> They each have their place, and sometimes many places. The Tiptop has
 >> created it's niche too. :)
 >>
 >> Mark
 >> -----
 >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <ersatzplanet@>
 >> wrote:
 >> >
 >> > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it.
 >> > -     http://vimeo.com/2206614
 >> > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display
 >> > shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on
 >> > the spectrum display.
 >>
 >
 >
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