Doepfer

My ZO starts to distort at lower freqs (looks like a square with rounded corners). So it's a 
sine for only part of its range.

I'm not so much interested about whose *distorted* sine wave sounds best, but who's sine 
output actually has no audible harmonic distortion (i.e fundamental only).



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
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> or maybe Cyndustries Zeroscillator...i think that should also have a very good sinewave.
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> that said, i also really like a lot the sine of the A111's (i use them all the time!) and the 
sine of the AFG (regarding Euro).
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> --- On Fri, 11/28/08, laryn91 <caymus91@...> wrote:
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> From: laryn91 <caymus91@...>
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 7:17 PM
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> I originally asked if anybody sold a VCO with undistorted sine outputs. In summary here 
> are the replies I got:
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> 1 - Manufactures claim they can spec any wave with rounded peaks as "Sine". Even if 
you 
> can clearly hear even harmonic distortion - any roundish looking shape is a close 
enough 
> to be called a Sine. 
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> 2 - Analog vs. Digital religion states that analog must always remain imprecise because 
> that is its character. We don't want a clean analog wave with no added harmonics in our 
> system because that would make it digital.
> 
> 3 - Finally the topic police posted their overall disapproval of this discussion. Even 
> banning members was suggested!
> 
> So I learned if you want a real sine wave (as defined by Fourier), get Plan-B Model 15... 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, york luethje <ybl@> wrote:
> >
> > Why ban people? I found the debate lively at first, although it later turned somewhat 
> obnoxious. Dieter Doepfer has given an excellent reply and I think matters should rest 
> there.
> > 
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> > From: kovski774 <kovski@>
> > To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:30:55 AM
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?
> > 
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> > or perhaps we can just ban argitoth? the guy's a trainwreck, spoils 
> > every message board he signs up to with inane opinions presented as 
> > fact and a TOTAL lack of self awareness. 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_ 2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > yes, good idea. i can then NOT join that group...
> > > 
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > www. parallel - worlds - music. com
> > > www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic
> > > www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic
> > > www. myspace. com/ memorygeist
> > > www. DiN. org. uk
> > > www. musicamaximamagneti ca. com
> > > www. shimarecords. co. uk
> > > www. rubberrecords. gr
> > > Athens - Greece
> > > 
> > > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Frequency Divider <freq.div@ .> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Frequency Divider <freq.div@ .>
> > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform 
> > quality?
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 9:31 PM
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > i would like to suggest the creation of a seperate list or yahoo 
> > group 
> > > for any future sine wave purity discussions. you could even join 
> > the 
> > > alternate tunings list for obsessive talk about tuning the vco in 
> > cents 
> > > and fractions of cents
> > > 
> > > Argitoth schreef:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > btw, here's the Tip Top Audio VCO waveform test:
> > > > http://www.muffwigg ler.com/forum/ viewtopic. php?t=2158 
> > > > <http://www.muffwigg ler.com/forum/ viewtopic. php?t=2158>
> > > > 
> > > > Is it just me or does Analogue Systems VCO produce better 
> > traingles and 
> > > > sines?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks James,
> > > > 
> > > > Laryn91, I just recorded my synth using the filter as a 
> > waveshaper.
> > > > Good tracking is not needed, you just have to patch a 1v/oct 
> > signal
> > > > into the filter's VC, but that VC needs an attenuator. You don't 
> > want
> > > > to give it full VC. Here's the recording:
> > > > http://www.elanhick ler.com/misc/ filter-waveshapi ng-test.wav 
> > > > <http://www.elanhick ler.com/misc/ filter-waveshapi ng-test.wav>
> > > > 
> > > > 1. Raw sound without filtering.
> > > > 2. With filtering (notice how you can't hear low notes, that's 
> > how it
> > > > should be with sine waves, however the problem is that low notes 
> > also
> > > > have small peaks)
> > > > 3. With filtering used as a modulator (the lesser peaks means 
> > it's not
> > > > good as a modulator, not enough volume anymore)
> > > > 4. Without filtering used as a pitch modulator (this is how the
> > > > modulation should sound)
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm... Its anyone's guess if a filter is really worth using as a 
> > waveshaper.
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