Actually, I'm full of sh_t. The A-129 doesn't give individual band outs -- rather, it gives individual voltage control of band amplitudes, which for a lot of uses, but certainly not all, amounts to the same thing. > -----Original Message----- > From: unknown freak [mailto:ospengler@rcn.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:43 PM > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Utility Module Request > > > No pratness involved -- perhaps minor deafness to my saying > this mainly applied to people who already have a vocoder with > an A-129/3: "(Still, my comments mostly apply to people who > have the vocoder.)" > > I'd be curious to see how it goes. Roger Arrick made some > goofs in realizing the Synthesizers.com version, like very > low amplitudes at the individual outs. > > What sort of musical effects are you looking to get via > tapping individual band outs from the Filterbank? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: code_pig [mailto:code_pig@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:33 PM > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Utility Module Request > > > > > > Without wanting to seem like a prat, I have to point out a few > > realities to your solution. > > > > First, you are correct in saying that the A129 components > will do the > > job, but that is assuming one has a vocoder (cost: $680 without > > shipping). > > > > Then one must purchase 2 more A129/3's ($117 each), and > that runs the > > price up to $916 (again, without shipping). As I said before, it's > > one hell of an expensive way to get individual outputs from > the A128. > > > > Then there's the physical differences. The A129's filter types (1 > > LP, 13 BP, and 1 HP) are different than the A128's 15 BP filters. > > Then, the frequencies of the A129 (lowest frequency is 100hZ) are > > different than the A128 (lowest frequency is 50hZ). > > > > In short, looking at the cost of the vocoder and additional modules, > > I certainly feel modifying my A128 is well worth the time. > > > > Regards, > > Kevin > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "unknown freak" <ospengler@r...> wrote: > > > As a side note, with the A-129/3 you'd also be picking up an > > > always-useful set of attenuators and tuneable DC sources. > > > > > > (Still, my comments mostly apply to people who have the vocoder.) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: unknown freak [mailto:ospengler@r...] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:46 PM > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@y... > > > > Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Utility Module Request > > > > > > > > > > > > That depends on whether you already have the vocoder -- with at > > > > least one A-129/3 -- in your rig, as I do. Two more > A-129/3s from > > > > enport would run you $234, while an A-128 would run > $160, but you > > > > have to also figure in parts, time, and soldering iron > misery for > > > > the modification to the A-128 for the same effect. If you're > > > > talking about complexity, the modification to the A-128 > would be > > > > the first place I'd look, but to each his/her own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: code_pig [mailto:code_pig@y...] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:16 PM > > > > > To: Doepfer_a100@y... > > > > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Utility Module Request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once again, agreed. On the other hand, that is a complex and > > > > > expensive solution to a rather simple problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak > <ospengler@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Precisely why some people get 3 A-129/3s for their vocoders. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm thinking of adding an A128 to my rig, but if I were > > concerned > > > > > about > > > > > > individual outs, I might just get two more A-129/3s. > > > > > > > > > > > > code_pig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, but that would require 15 voltages. I think it > > would be > > > > > > > easier to get the outputs from an A128. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <ospengler@r...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > You could get this with the basic vocoder modules, as > > long as > > > > > you > > > > > > > drove > > > > > > > > the band CV inputs with voltages. Any tunable DC > > > > would do -- A- > > > > > > > 129/3s > > > > > > > > or A-176s, for example. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > studio1dk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out: http://www.modular-planet.de/_tipps/a128- > > > > > > > einzelausg.html > > > > > > > > > on the modular planet. It´s how you solder > > > > individual outs for > > > > > > > the a- > > > > > > > > > 128, the down side is that it´s in german. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keld > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > While doing a bit of emailing to Peter Grenader, he > > > > > mentioned a > > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > Synthesizer.com module that is a filter bank > > > > > utility module. > > > > > > > > > > Basically, it sits next to their fixed filter bank, > > and > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > unattenuated outputs for each frequency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would this make a good Doepfer module? I think > > > > so. I know > > > > > > > this is > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > dumb question, but does anyone have an opinion? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let the debate begin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > > > > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > > > > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Utility Module Request
2002-07-11 by unknown freak