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Vocoder (was: Utility Module Request)

2002-07-13 by buechlerjoe

Hi RM
I have four rows of modules, so I was considering the 129/1 and 129/2 
and associated modules that would fit in a single 3U row.

So maybe 129/1, 129/2 and 3X 129/3 - 80U, there's a row. 

Or for adding vocal processing, maybe 129/1, 129/2, 129/3, 129/5, 117, 
146, 192 (for recording the analysis CVs.)

Why is DNG recommended on the Doepfer web page? I already have an 118, 
would that be adequate for unvoiced?

Likewise the 146? I already have 2X 145 and 147?

Sorry I'm a bit ingnorant about vocoder stuff.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <ospengler@r...> wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> I'm not quite sure I'm getting the gist of your terms "voice" and
> "one-row configuration", but as for the vocoder I'd say you could 
get by
> for a lot of purposes just fine with just the analysis section and 
the
> synthesis section (A-129/1 and A-129/2).  If you're bringing in a
> microphone, the A-129/5 is useful.  The A-129/3 takes you into a 
realm
> of being able to edit the voltages you're bringing into the 
synthesis
> section (three 129/3s -- the ideal full complement -- turns the 
vocoder
> into a filterbank; I've only got one), and the A-129/4 adds slew.
> 
> For most of my uses, I'm really only using the analysis and 
synthesis
> modules.  That certainly won't eat up a row.
> 
> But if by "one-row configuration" you mean a 3U row of modules as 
the
> extent of the instrument, I think the standard 3U configuration 
offered
> by Doepfer hits the mark with module choices for versatility, and
> shoehorning in the vocoder would probably not be advisable there.  
If
> you just wanted a simple outboard vocoder you could probably pick up 
an
> Electrix WarpFactory for under $200 on eBay, and though not modular 
it's
> a pretty fun and good-sounding, especially for the price.  Frankly 
it
> tempts me, too, for certain kinds of quick and easy 
formant-capturing,
> and it's stereo.
> 
> 
> buechlerjoe wrote:
> > 
> > Hi UF
> > 
> > You've got me kind of interested. Jeez, I swore I was happy with 
my
> > A100 configuration, too :-)
> > 
> > What you recommend for a Vocoder configuration as a supplement to 
an
> > existing A100 voice? Would this allow a decent one-row 
configuration?
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > P.S. As far as EVERYONE's knowledge here in the group, I think
> > that's what's unquestionable. I'm constantly amazed at the range 
of
> > useful information shared by everyone here.
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., unknown freak <ospengler@r...> wrote:
> > > Hey Pig,
> > >
> > > I don't mind your having a wallow.  Yes, I've got the vocoder, 
and I
> > use
> > > and like it a lot, also never vocally controlled.  My most 
typical
> > use
> > > actually involves controlling it with a sine wave from a 
sequenced
> > or
> > > LFO'd or etc. VCO or resonating filter to pick out individual 
bands.
> > > Vocoders have a ton of uses.  My comment that the patch Peter
> > described
> > > could be done with the vocoder was prime facie true -- what's a
> > vocoder
> > > after all but a fixed filterbank in which each band has its own 
VCA.
> > > The difference is that the vocoder has one unity output for all 
the
> > > bands, but as I said, for lots of uses that wouldn't really 
matter.
> > > There must be patches for which it *would* matter to have 
individual
> > > band outputs for separate processing, but for simple VCAing of 
bands
> > > where they'd be going to the same destination, the vocoder does 
the
> > > job.  That doesn't mean there shouldn't be an individual band 
output
> > > helper module for the fixed filter bank, just that the 
particular
> > > example sounded like one that could be done without one.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for as Peter's knowledge, it's unquestionable.
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
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