Hi Monroe. Yes, you explained very clear. I thought that a single VCA could control all four voices if they were sent to a voltage mixer. The problem is not the number of modules per voice, but a way to make changes to the attack, decay, sustain and release of each adsr module and vca acting the same way in real time. Like a A-143-2 with four gate inputs but just one ADSR row and a single output. Don't know if what I imagined makes sense... Anyway, hope the polyphonic interface come out soon. I will keep studying more. Thank you. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@...> wrote: > > Two basic musical properties are rhythm and pitch. Polyphony is where there > are several voices with independent pitch and rhythm. Homophony is where > several voices have independent pitch but identical rhythm. Without > independent volume control for each oscillator you cannot do true polyphony, > for example sustain one note while another articulates many times. For that > you'd need 1 vca to be open while another opens and closes as you play > different notes. > > If you want the parameters on the filters and envelopes to have common > controls, you would probably want a few A176 CV sources, mult'ed out to > different VCFs and VCADSRs. You'd still need to carefully tune the manual > controls on each one if you want it to sound the same on each voice. If you > don't need common control but you want synced filters and envelopes, you > will just need to tune the one for each voice to the same values, and retune > each one if you want to change any parameter. > > I hope I'm making sense... > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Sidney <sidney_honi@...> wrote: > > > > > > > I wouldn't be playing polyphonic because the ADSR envelope would not be > > activated each time I touch a different note? Or maybe a new module similar > > to the A-143-2, with four inputs but only four knobs giving each voice the > > same envelope? > > > > Do you think that the A-190-5 Interface will be intended to control two or > > more 111-5 modules? If so, can their filters and envelopes be synced? > > > > Sorry if I misunderstood something. I am trying to understand the multiple > > module function. > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@> > > wrote: > > > > > > The most direct way would be to control them from a common signal. Use a > > > multiple to split the gate or filter modulation source. However, if you > > > want to attack several notes independently, like how one plays a piano, > > then > > > you need one VCA and envelope for each VCO. If you don't do this, then > > you > > > aren't playing "polyphony," it's actually called "homophony." > > > > > > Monroe > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Sidney <sidney_honi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Monroe. > > > > > > > > In fact I was looking for something similar to what Florian explained, > > > > working like a Korg Mono-Poly, because I could use the filters, VCA and > > ADSR > > > > modules from my system, just needing to add more oscillators in order > > to > > > > achieve a polyphonic system. > > > > > > > > Anyway, both ways explained by you and Florian would make a fantastic > > > > polyphonic system. > > > > > > > > But can two or more 111-5's filters or envelopes be synced in some way, > > so > > > > for example if I make a filter movement on one of the 111-5 will the > > others > > > > follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Monroe Eskew <monroe.eskew@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you want to control the volume of each note independently you need > > one > > > > > VCA and one ADSR for each voice. You can get away with one filter at > > the > > > > > end, but usually there is a filter in each voice. > > > > > > > > > > I would recommend 4 A111-5 modules. That's all you need. > > > > > > > > > > Monroe > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Sidney <sidney_honi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello. I am very interested about the possibilities of the A-190-5 > > > > > > Polyphonic Midi-to-CV/Gate Interface. Does anybody knows if four > > > > oscillators > > > > > > controlled by one Midi channel, could be connected to a A-138 B > > mixer > > > > module > > > > > > and this output connected to a single filter and ADSR envelope to > > make > > > > a > > > > > > complete polyphonic system? Or would I need a filter and adsr and > > vca > > > > per > > > > > > voice? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sidney. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
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Re: A-190-5 Polyphonic Midi-to-CV/Gate Interface
2011-02-13 by Sidney
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