hi shm, ME!!!!i am interested!please manufacture this low pass gate(AND ALL THE OTHER VACTROL MODULES!!!THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE POLLS)---KEEP VOTING ABOUT THEM--- bakis. --- shm1400 <shm14@hotmail.com> wrote: > It would be a great idea for Doepfer to offer blank > panels without > the Doepfer logo. I would definitely buy several of > them if > offered. The idea of a 5 jack, 5 pot 8hp panel > sounds perfect too. > Please do it. > It's funny. I was wishing for this exact thing just > this week. Even > for people who don't want to build their own > circuits, this would > allows us to adopt modules from other manufacturers > that are not > offered by Doepfer to our systems. (I personally > want to add Buchla > style low pass gates to my system.) > In order to maximize the chance of this actually > happening, lets not > make it too complpicated. 8hp 5 knob, 5 jack panels > sound perfect. > Please do this Mr. Doepfer. > While we're on the subject of Buchla style low pass > gates, Would > Doepfer consider actually manufacturing one? The > circuit must be in > the public domain, and seems to be well known. It > has to be done > with vactrols, just like the original. The slow > response is an > important part of the sound. Is anybody else > interested in this? > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote: > > > > --- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@d...> wrote: > > > From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...> > > > To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...> > > > Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] yes to Blank paneRe: > The > > > most advancedAttenuator yet > > > Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 13:11:19 +0200 > > > > > > ----> Please forward to the group > > > > > > > I don't see why Doepfer shouldn't be able to > sell > > > pre drilled plates and > > > > kits if they wanted to. They have all the > > > components and all they have to do > > > > is NOT mount them ;) That would be very > useful. > > > > > > There are some remarks to this messages (and > similar > > > ones): > > > > > > It is not that easy as suggested in this message > to > > > offer plates and parts. > > > Normally we do only the development in our > company. > > > The production of the > > > modules is made by a external production > company. > > > This includes manufacturing pc > > > boards, front panels, cable assembly and all > > > standard electronic parts (like > > > resistors, capacitors, diodes, transistors, > standard > > > integrated circuits, pin > > > headers and so on). We only deliver special > parts to > > > the production company > > > (e.g. the jack sockets, potentiometers, knobs > and > > > special integrated circuits > > > like CEM or SSM). > > > > > > And I have to emphasize that we made some very > bad > > > experiences with kits (we > > > offered kits until about ~ 1998) and selling > single > > > special parts like front > > > panels or cases: > > > 1. Many customers overestimated themselves and > > > converted "kits to garbage". E.g. > > > wrong soldering iron were used so that the pcb > > > tracks removed, wrong assembly of > > > parts, and many many mistakes we never would > have > > > imagined (one customer > > > soldered all parts without shortening the legs > of > > > resistors, capacitors, diodes > > > and so on - it looked like an "electronic" > garden, > > > but of course it did not > > > work). > > > > > > But the main problem was another one: We > received > > > many second-hand devices for > > > repair. After checking out the device we found > that > > > it was a kit built very > > > unprofessional. The second-hand customers were > > > surprised very unpleasantly as > > > they assumed to have purchased a regular Doepfer > > > product. When they were told > > > that they purchased an unprofessional assembled > kit > > > many were very angry even > > > against and insisted on a repair free of charge. > > > They were of the opinion that > > > we were guilty for this affair as they were not > able > > > to distinguish between a > > > regular product and an unprofessional assembled > kit. > > > > > > So we will definitely not offer kits or single > front > > > panels or cases to avoid > > > such problems. > > > > > > But in one of the messages there was another > idea > > > that I would approve, i.e. to > > > develop an universal front panel and pc board > for > > > DIY applications. The problem > > > is the layout of the front panel (e.g. 8HP, 5 > rotary > > > knobs with 5 jack sockets > > > as many of the modules) and the features of the > pcb > > > ? I see a lot of new > > > discussion .... > > > We could offer such a neutral front panel (e.g. > only > > > scales for rotary knobs, no > > > DOEPFER logo) and pc board only for DIY > applictions. > > > No confusions could occur > > > as we will not offer a ready built module based > on > > > this front panel/pcb. > > > > > > If there is an agreement in the group concerning > the > > > front panel and pcb design > > > we could offer these parts. The main problem is > that > > > to get a acceptable price > > > we have to order at least 100 (better 250 or > 500) of > > > these parts. So pre-orders > > > of a minimum of about 50 pcs would be necessary > for > > > us. I think the price for > > > the front panel (stamped and printed) and pcb > would > > > be approximately in the 25 > > > Euro range. We also could publish the pcb layout > > > file (Eagle format) and the > > > front panel file (Corel Draw format) so that > > > customers could do modifications if > > > desired. A basic version of Eagle is available > as > > > freeware in the internet > > > (www.cadsoft.de). > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Dieter Doepfer > > > > > > > > > ===== > > synthfreak(parallel worlds) > > athens-greece > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, > forms, and more > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > === message truncated === ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Re: Fwd: AW: [Doepfer_a100] DOEPFER'S ANSWER to the possibility of offering kits.
2003-04-02 by Bakis Sirros
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