hi andreas, there is an old poll...it was a module proposed by florian a long time ago... bakis. --- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com> wrote: > That sounds interesting to me although I don't > completey grasap it, but the > wobbling and inaccuracy in this case could be more > advatageous as an effect > than a pure VCO it seems to me... when did this > module come up on the > agenda? I didn't even know it was something Doepfer > had in mind.... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> > To: "Doepfer_a100 group" > <doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 6:06 PM > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] a brief explanation about > the uses of a PLL > VCO.(from doepfer.) > > > > dieter says: > > "a PLL and it's application is not very easy to > > understand. I will try to write an explanation and > > publish it on our web site as soon as we publish > the > > preliminary page for the PLL module (no A-100 > number > > so far). > > Here is a simplified explanation: A PLL is a > linear > > rectangle VCO with a frequency comparator that > > compares the frequency of the internal PLL-VCO > with an > > external frequency (master frequency) - e.g. the > > rectangle output of "normal" A-100 VCO - and > makes > > the the internal VCO frequency equal to the > external > > frequency. Or better said: it tries to adjust the > > internal frequency so that it becomes equal to the > > external frequency. The problem is the frequency > > comparator - even called phase comparator - that > > generates a kind of a correction voltage that > becomes > > zero if both frequencies are identical. Different > > versions with different advantages/disadvantages > of > > frequency comparators are available. Some types of > > comparators e.g. will "lock" even at multiples of > the > > frequencies. Another problem is the time that is > > necessary until the PLL-VCO is adjusted. It will > > always take some time until the new frequency of > the > > PLL-VCO is reached (similar to portamento). The > time > > constant of the internal low pass filter (not an > audio > > low pass but a low pass/slew limiter for the > > correction CV) defines the time until the new > > frequency is reached. But this time has not to be > too > > short otherwise the frequency of the PLL-VCO will > > "wobble" around the master frequency. These > > "disadvantages" lead to additional musical > > applications like portamento effects or wobbling > > frequencies according to the type of frequency > > comparator and time constant of the PLL low pass > > filter. > > Another application is frequency multiplication in > > combination with an external frequency divider. > For > > this the output of the PLL-VCO is processed > through a > > frequency divider (e.g. A-160, A-161, A-163) > before it > > is fed to the PLL frequency comparator. In this > case > > the frequency of the PLL-VCO will be a multiple of > the > > master frequency. E.g if the the A-163 is used and > > adjusted to dividing factor 5 the frequency of the > > PLL-VCO will be 5 times the frequency of the > master > > VCO. Consequently frequency division (A-163) leads > to > > frequency multiplication with the PLL circuit. In > > combination with the PLL low pass frequency > several > > effects can be realized (frequency multiplication > with > > portamento or wobbling). The frequency > multiplication > > can even be used to drive a graphic VCO. If your > > graphic VCO e.g. has 8 steps (e.g. A-155) and you > use > > a frequency divider with factor 8 in the PLL > feedback > > the output of the graphic VCO has the same > frequency > > as the master VCO. Another application is the > > generation of pseudo-harmonics (not real harmonics > as > > only rectangle waves are available). > > > > I hope this explanation will help and not cause > more > > confusion. I know that the PLL is not very easy to > > understand. > > Best wishes > > Dieter Doepfer" > > > > > > > > INTERESTING???????OF COURSE,YES! > > bakis. > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > synthfreak(parallel worlds) > > athens-greece > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] a brief explanation about the uses of a PLL VCO.(from doepfer.)
2003-06-26 by Bakis Sirros
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