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Re: Voltage Control continued/A-196

2004-09-07 by cuari7

Can you get PWM with its comparator?
I bought an A-167 hoping to be able to get a nice PWM chorused sound 
(like I do from my Serge comparators). 
Not quite. The result was a disappointing low-volume buzzing sound. 
It'd be nice to get this from the PLL, though.

cuari7


-- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hello ernst,
> i really recomment the a196 for crazy effects! i have
> used it mainly with an a110 vco for pitched sounds,
> but even these pitched sounds have a special
> "digital-like" noise-odd quality!you really can create
> many unpredictable effects with the a196, that would
> be very difficult to create with other modules. or you
> would have to use a lot of other a100 modules to
> create the same wierd effects that you can achieve
> with only one a196! that's why i have three a196's.
> AND, you can also use it as a standard pulsewave vco,
> BUT, with linear cv(you can control this linear vco
> from a yamaha cs or korg ms monosynth).
> bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Ernst <ernst@d...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > Back again with this insane idea of recording
> > voltage control signals 
> > to tape.
> > Thanks for all the suggestions you guys gave me on
> > the last mail.
> > 
> > However, I am still convinced that using a frequency
> > demodulator is the 
> > best option. Since using amplitude is not really an
> > option because 
> > you'll lose definition in the low amplitude parts
> > (I'm speaking about 
> > the conflicts with the noise floor of the recording
> > medium that 
> > interferes with the actual CV).
> > 
> > After some searching in books and discussing with a
> > good friend. My 
> > attention was pointed towards the A-196 PLL module.
> > I found out the following: a frequency demodulator
> > uses the phase 
> > locked loop (PLL) principle....
> > So actually the A-196 ppl has a freq. demodulator
> > inside its innards 
> > (or rather it is the phase comparator part inside
> > the  A-196 that is 
> > the freq. demodulator).
> > 
> > However, the Phase Comparator in the A-196 is
> > digital..
> > This means that it will only report three states of
> > the difference 
> > between the incoming signal and the internal VCO,
> > bummer!
> > As long as the external signals frequency is higher
> > than the freq. of 
> > the internal VCO the resulting VC will keep rising
> > and vice versa if 
> > the freq. of the external signal is lower. The
> > resulting VC remains 
> > zero as long as the phases of the signals are locked
> > (= freqs are the 
> > same). This is then not really providing me with a
> > proper demodulated 
> > signal, it gives sort of an integrated version of
> > what i want.
> > 
> > I know that the A-196 PLL is not made for what I
> > want to do, and I 
> > still might buy this module anyway because i can see
> > some cool 
> > applications for it.
> > Do any of you guys have some interesting experiences
> > with this module??
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ernst
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> Bakis Siros
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