Doepfer

so,how i control my a100???
i use 4 a155's.this way i can have 8 or 16 step
sequences... and in combination to other cv cources i
can have endlessly evolving sequences...i,also have a
lot of other modules(over 100...)i don't feel the need
of a shaltwerk or a MAQ ,but if i had the extra money
i would buy a MAQ and a shaltwerk.and what do i do
when i want patterns and all these??i use my midi
sequencer(with a cv/gate converter).as for longer
notes?? by the right triggers/gates settings and by
using the s/h circuit that is in the a155 you can
achieve that...as for changing tempo??use a
vc-lfo!!!(you can't do this with other
sequencers,right??)as for more complex trigger/gates
patterns??use an a162 trigger delay...as for midi,i
use an a190(for cv/gate/midi sync) and a kenton
pro-2000 for 5 more cv/gate channels.that way i have a
6 multitimbral system that can do almost
everything!!!!!!
i really believe that the limit is your imagination
when you use a large modular system,right??
i only have 2 A110's and 4 A111's,though...but i will
have more in the very near future...and the new sensor
keyboard/sequencer and the new logic module so i can
have even more complex sequences...and,and,and...
now let's see...could i ever build such a system using
MOTM,SERGE or TECHNOSAURUS modules???NO WAY!!!!!if i
ever could find the money for this i
would,rather,prefer to expand my doepfer system to
monster dimensions!!!then i would buy some modules of
the former expensive companies or even build a modest
system of these modules to ACCOMPANY my huge doepfer
a100 system...

synthfreak


--- ringmod45 <ringmod45@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >thanks florian,
> >i totaly agree with you in the comparison between
> >MOTM(or other expensive modulars)and DOEPFER!!!
> >also,i think you are right about this endless
> >discussion about the upgrade of
> >regelwerk/shaltwerk...
> 
> 
> sorry to say it, but you are both wrong on that
> issue.
> customer support and upgrading is an issue. they do 
> control my A100 system. 
> 
> 
> >(but,please let's not reply to
> >each other with "shut up"and things like
> >that,o.k.??:-)...)
>  
> 
> i totally agree with you on that one. let's save the
> 
> kindergarden comments for the schoolyard. this group
> 
> is about debate, thought and discussion. let's focus
> 
> on the issues at hand. they might not be useful to
> you ,but to others 
> they matter, so keep an open mind.
> 
> 
> >by the way,i don't have a MAQ,or regelwek,or
> >shaltwerk,so i can't say anything about
> >them,really....
> 
> curious? what do you use to control your A100?
> using an A155 does only monophonic lines. what
> happens when you want 
> to do more one? what do you do when you to chain
> multiple phrases 
> together?  what do you do when you want to play a
> melody over a nice 
> liquid bass line? what happens when you want to save
> them, so you can 
> work on them the next day? here is where the MAQ,
> Regelwerk and the 
> Schaltwerk come into play. all 3 of them send only
> 16th note 
> lenghths.not musically creative or functional unless
> all you are 
> looking is repetitive 16th notes all day long. by
> having the 
> possibility to tie notes together you will be able
> to do whole notes, 
> half notes...etc.
> so the door should not be shut and locked to those
> want to use their 
> sequencers that way.
> 
> 
> >but as far as i know dieter,is a very
> >nice man,
> 
> I never discussed or mentioned anything about his
> character.
> 
> 
> 
> >that cares about his customers,
> 
> 
> I am sure he cares about his customers, he should
> care a little more 
> about customers who voice their opinions about
> certain features that 
> need to be added to their gear. the note tie issue
> is a monumental 
> lack of forsight. that should have been one of the
> first arguments 
> when they were planning the Schaltwerk. i mean the
> the TB-303 did it 
> with an older processor. so there is no excuse. if
> he really cared a 
> lot, this issue would not have been on the back
> burner for the last 5 
> years.  they should do something about it in the
> very near future 
> i.e. now. it will send a clear message that he
> really cares about 
> their products and send a positive note on the state
> of things to 
> come and boost the image of his company. i hope you
> never have the 
> sinking feeling i get when i look in dismay at my
> schaltwerk in the 
> closet , hoping for something to happen ever.
> 
> 
> >and does what >he does >because he loves his
> work,not >just to make 
> money...,o.k.??
> 
> i am sure he does, that's why he is the synth
> building business.
> 
> 
> >so,if he tells us that it's difficult
> >to upgrade the shaltwerk/regelwerk,he must be
> >right...after all,  
> 
> how diffcult can it really be. they plan, design,
> prototype and build 
> PCB's to put into cases or face plates for a living.
> pain in the ass, 
> yes, difficult no. difficult is squeezing a square
> peg into a hole of 
> the same diameter. most of the code for the machine
> is already 
> written,so a little more coding will do the trick.
> seems to me it's 
> just a memory and faster cpu issue that should be
> solved fairly 
> quickly. this should be a piece of cake
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> let's see how many people are ready
> >to pay these extra 300 euros for a hardware
> upgrade.
> 
> sorry, 300 or 400  euros isn't that the figurative
> price for the new 
> touch sensor keyboard? i don't see 25 pots, 88 1/8"
> phone jacks and 
> 29 led's going into the the proposed upgrade. those
> items are 
> expensive. on top of that no drilling to the actual
> cases and face 
> plates. we are talking about a stuffed PCB,
> re-connect a few wires 
> and writing more code to implement it from the
> current OS.
> 
> i am willing to pay a fair price for the upgrade. i
> think the upgrade 
> should be done for  the parts, plus labour and a
> small mark-up, say 
> 10% to 20% for the effort. the price for the upgrade
> should be 
> distributed between Doepfer,the existing and future
> customers. should 
> we take the hit for the boards that are going the
> wayside? i think 
> parts and labour should be factored in the equation
> but definitely 
> not the mark- up attached to them. that seems pretty
> fair i would 
> say. 
> 
> 
> 
> >if
> >you see that are more that 10(according to the
> polls),
> >then please address your requests directly to
> doepfer
> >or chris assall.) 
> 
> 
> i think the discussion should be kept in this group,
> so people can 
> see what is actually going to happen. second, it can
> really help 
> doepfer expose their effort and it might lead to
> more sales.
> 
> 
> 
> >AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DOEPFER ON HIS INTEREST TO
> >ALWAYS DEVELOP MORE NEW MODULES FOR THE A100!!!
> 
> i agree, but not to the detriment of other products
> which definitely 
> need a helping hand and upgrades to realize their
> full potential and 
> become the shining stars they deserve to to be. the
> MAQ, Regelwerk, 
> Schaltwerk are vital to the control of the A100. if
> they were not, 
> they would not have been built in the place. i
> believe Doepfer made 
> the MAQ  before the A100, so it seems like a valid
> product.this will 
> solidify the image of Doepfer Musikelektronik in the
> synth world and 
> bring more sales in the process. remember nothing
> sells a product 
> better then word of mouth. for now, mum's the word
> until i see an 
> 
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synthfreak(parallel worlds)
athens-greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator

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