Doepfer

Unless I'm mistaken, the Metalbox wavefolder is Ken Stone's 
Wave Multiplier board with a fracplate. It this is the case, it's real 
real close to the Serge multiplier and this was not intentional on 
Ken's part - he didn't just copy Serge's.  The Serge Wave 
Multiplier is more in your face, that's for sure - but IMHO it's not 
so good at sublety, and this is where the A137 kicks butt.  For my 
$$$, it doesn't always need to yell.  

What's with the Metalbox sequential switch price?  sheesh - 
$400?  You know what's in those things?  Not much!

- P




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, RSA <wiard300@y...> 
wrote:
>
> I had the A137, sold it. Bought the Metalbox one,
> still have it. I'd say the Metalbox has a MUCH
> stronger effect on the waveform, to my ears.
> 
> cheers,
> RSA
> 
> --- Bryan E Cornell <bcor@l...> wrote:
> 
> > I've been debating between the A-137 and a Metalbox
> > Wave Folder.  Can anybody weigh in with some wildly
> > biased opinions?
> > 
> > Bryan
> > 
> > >>> Florian.Anwander@c... 10/24/05 3:57 AM >>>
> > Hi
> > 
> > > Dieter Dopefer has pulled a off a big winner with
> > the A-137 Wave 
> > > Multiplier.  One of the most unique sound
> > modifiers to come 
> > > around in some time, and argueably the best
> > waveshaper ever 
> > > released IMHO.  
> > I definitely can subscribe this. The A137 is my
> > favourite module from 
> > the first moment.
> > 
> > 
> > > Tune to Saw VCO's to octaves, mix them, put them
> > both thorugh 
> > > one wave multiplier.  
> > Don't mix the input signal. Use one VCO as carrier
> > and the other as 
> > Modulator (I call it 'waveshaping cross
> > modulation')!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Trouble in paradise:  One thing I wish for is a VC
> > level control
> > > input.  Many timbral variations occur based on how
> > hard to drive
> > > the clippers.  You can do it with an external VCA
> > of course
> > > leading into the device, but it would have been
> > wack had it been
> > > an A-137 feature.
> > This is not a trouble it is the best feature and one
> > really important 
> > note for every use of a wavemultiplier or distortion
> > is:
> > If you want to modulate the effect dynamically
> > (Envelope, LFO, ...), the 
> > it is much better to modulate the level of the input
> > signal instead of 
> > modulating the waveshaping effect.
> > 
> > 
> > Example:
> > Not good:
> >          ENV
> >           |
> > VCO -> A137 -> VCA
> > 
> > Better:
> >         ENV
> >          |
> > VCO -> VCA -> A137
> > 
> > 
> > The best (and most simple) example is feeding a
> > TR808 style drumset with 
> > bass drum and different toms through the A-137. Use
> > only very short 
> > Hihats and no noise like clap or shaker.
> > 
> > 
> > Florian
> > 
> > 
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