hello, i tried the a133 too, but i haven't recorded it, because i wanted to compare only dedicated ring modulators. you are right, the a133 can also be used to generate ring modulator effects. damn, i should have recorded that module too. best wishes ingo --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "okiikahuna" <okiikahuna@y...> wrote: > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" <techmeier@w...> wrote: > > I think you guys might have missed Doepfer's "other" ring modulator > in your otherwise exhaustive comparison. The A-133 Polarizer is just > a 4 quadrant multiplier and seems to make a fine balanced modulator. > Just adjust the carrier for the least amount of leakage with no cv > applied, then put the modulator signal into the CV jack. You can vary > it continuously between balanced modulation and ampitude modulation > by turning the knob or applying an offset. To me, the sound seems > most similar to the unmodded A-114, which raises lots of interesting > questions about the effect of DC v. AC coupling, since the A-133 is > clearly DC. > > Although it has been a few years since I have played with one, I have > very fond memories of the sound of the Buchla 100 series ring > modulator. Does anybody know what was in this circuit? Was there > anything special about it? > > K > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, denis goekdag <q-art@g...> > > wrote: > > > > > > it's really easy to assemble one or two cgs ringmods from the > > assembled > > > boards you can buy, just take an 8 hp blindplate, drill 6 8.2mm > > holes > > > for the s6 sockets, hot-glue the two cgs boards to the plate (the > > > transformer's "casing" allow this quite smoothly), wire the > > sockets, > > > done. > > Yes, probably the most simple DIY project around. The most > > complicated part is to get in touch with Ken of CGS at least he has > > never replied to my mails. > :( Ingo > > > > > Am 15.11.2005 um 18:09 schrieb Zoran Bosnjak: > > > > > > > > > > Ingo, > > > > > > > > thank you so much for the example! I like the CGS ring module > > the > > > > most. What > > > > a pity it is not offered assembled. I still have to get the > > soldering > > > > lesson > > > > #1 before trying to figure it out myself... (Does anybody offer > > basic > > > > electronics course in Montreal?) > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Zoran > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@y...> > > > >> Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > >> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > > > >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: comparing ring modulators > > > >> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 10:38:39 -0000 > > > >> > > > >> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" > <techmeier@w...> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" > > > >>> <synaptic_music@y...> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> hello antonio, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> the missing lows in #5 are probably because the > > > >>>> cgs real ring is a passive device, the output > > > >>>> loudness is weak on this module. > > > >>> > > > >>> Just want to add that the RRM is known to load the VCOs and > > thus > > > >>> affecting their performance. The results would be different > if > > the > > > >>> inputs of the RRM were buffered. One could add an Op Amp to > > each > > > >>> input or (if I'm not mistaken) 2 Analogue Solutions' MX224 > > > >>> Mixer/Buffer Modules. Obviously the latter is not very > > economical. > > > >>> Regards, Ingo > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> i usually use those mx224 buffers in front of the cgs real > ring, > > > >> but i didn't in my example, because i wanted to show the > > > >> significant differences of the loudness. > > > >> anyway, if you use those buffers, the output level of > > > >> the cgs real ring is still much lower than on the other > > > >> ring modulators. > > > >> > > > >> best wishes > > > >> > > > >> ingo > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Re: comparing ring modulators
2005-11-17 by selfoscillate
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