Doepfer

i don't think that i have the luxury of expanding my
a100 as i try hard to save this money(beleive me,i try
hard)and i,too, try to buy modules that i think that
will help me in my music...
synthfreak

--- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@toadmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Synthfreak
> > this group isn't about marketing for new modules.
> > this group is about EVERYTHING that has got to do
> with
> > the a100!!! (yes,i like the exclamation marks.)
> What I said was that the PRIMARY FOCUS (yes, I like
> the capitals) is 
> on providing Doepfer with feedback on which new
> modules would be most 
> popular, and what features would make them popular.
> If I thought that 
> it was the ONLY focus, then I wouldn't be here. Like
> I said, I'm not 
> much interested in buying any new modules, and I use
> a keyboard so I'm 
> not much interested in a touch controller either.
> 
> > it's just that at the present time doepfer is
> about to
> > release many new and(in my opinion)very
> interesting
> > modules so,i am just helping dieter doepfer to
> decide
> > what features to include,o.k.???
> I already said is was o.k. with me.
> 
> > so,some of you are DONE expanding your a100
> > systems,so,what???others are just
> > starting,others,including me,have ONLY one modular
> > system(a100) and spend their money on expanding
> this
> > one system...
> I also have ONLY one modular system(a100), and have
> spend my money on 
> expanding it. I'm quite happy with the module
> configuration that I 
> have now. 
> 
> Do you really intend to spend money indefinitely in
> order to continue 
> expanding yours? I don't think that most A100
> customers have that 
> luxury. Even cuari, who had the largest A100 system
> I've ever heard 
> of, has stopped expanding, and in fact is reducing
> the size of his 
> system. I don't buy modules for the sake of buying
> them, I buy them to 
> create music.
> 
> It seems ironic to me that suggestions for upgrades
> or improvements 
> are perceived as criticism, and we are told to "shut
> up", when what 
> we're really trying to ask for is a way to buy more
> stuff from 
> Doepfer!
> 
> Its not much different from other music stuff. How
> many computer music 
> applications do you need? You buy a copy of Cakewalk
> or something, and 
> you're done. But Twelve Tone would like more sales,
> so they make 
> improvements and add more features, and we end up
> plunking down more 
> money for an upgraded version of the sequencer.
> 
> > and doepfer's business model is NOT ONLY to expand
> his
> > modules range...
> Doepfer has the LARGEST module range of any
> manufacturer, past or 
> present, and continues to develop new modules. Some
> of the other 
> manufacturers have similar low prices, so the number
> of available 
> modules is what primarly differentiates Doepfer from
> Analog Systems, 
> Analog Solutions, and Blacet. It's obvious to all
> that this is true.
> 
> Joe
> > 
> > 
> > --- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > I think the difference in Philosophy is directly
> > > related to the issue 
> > > of new gear versus existing gear. Doepfer's
> business
> > > model is to 
> > > continuosly develop and sell new gear, and this
> > > forum primarily serves 
> > > as a marketing focus group for that effort. 
> > > 
> > > Which is fine, that's what the description of
> the
> > > group on the main 
> > > page says it is. I tend to ignore that aspect of
> the
> > > discussion, and 
> > > use the forum to talk about music and patches
> when
> > > the opportunity 
> > > comes up.
> > > 
> > > I think a point that's being overlooked, though,
> is
> > > that lots of us 
> > > are DONE expanding their A100 systems. That's
> why we
> > > don't have much 
> > > interest in additional modules. Eventually, all
> of
> > > us reach a point 
> > > where we have stopped expanding.  If Doepfer is
> to
> > > have any hope of 
> > > selling more stuff to this growing number of
> A100
> > > customers, it will 
> > > have to be in the form of upgrades and improved
> > > versions of current 
> > > modules and equipment.
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > It would be helpful --- In Doepfer_a100@y...,
> > > "Andreas Lindholm" 
> > > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > No I don't think it is. It is just another 
> set of
> > >  those 
> > > "unnessecary
> > > > features that you think should be there";-)
> > > > 
> > > > I think you have been the most avid of the lot
> to
> > > keep things cheap 
> > > and
> > > > stripped down. Now you ask for things to be
> > > included again. It just 
> > > doesn't
> > > > make sense the way you and Florian on one hand
> > > think that crippled 
> > > machines
> > > > should stay that way to make it cheap and the
> next
> > > second vote for 
> > > umpteen
> > > > new features that are suddenly vital. It would
> be
> > > nice to hear about 
> > > your
> > > > general philosophy regarding price vs.
> features. I
> > > hope it isn't 
> > > just a
> > > > display of  less self-centeredness. I try keep
> an
> > > open and modular 
> > > mind i.e.
> > > > make things simple but offer possibilities of
> > > expansion so everybody 
> > > can
> > > > decide for themselves what is vital and what
> is
> > > not rather than 
> > > declaring
> > > > what people do need. I have met a few users of
> > > musictechnology and 
> > > found
> > > > that not even users with the same gear work
> the
> > > same.
> > > > 
> > > > Furthermore I find endless rows of exclamation
> > > marks a bit on the 
> > > unserious
> > > > side, but perhaps that is just me. I just try
> to
> > > stick to standard
> > > > netiquette...
> > > > 
> > > > /Andreas
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@y...>
> > > > To: <Doepfer_a100@y...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] A little about
> that
> > > touch keyboard
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > ooooooo.......don't you understand that this
> > > sequencer
> > > > > NEEDS to be with the sensor keyboard???the
> keys
> > > of the
> 
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synthfreak(parallel worlds)
athens-greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator

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