Doepfer

On 2 Dec 2005, at 15:30, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Sorry, Anton, it should be kidding.

I'm not at all offended 

> The main problem is, that the Seq-outCV-controls-VCO method influences 
> the tempo. This should not happen to my opinion.

I agree, and even stronger, to me that makes this method quite 
useless, because the most important thing to me would be staying 
locked into the main beat and being able to do unorthodox things at 
the same time without getting lost. Think of the more extreme flows 
you hear in d&b/garage/grime grooves, or some of the stranger 
hiphop beats.  

The other main function of the module would be to finetune the feel 
of basslines, melodies, hihats etc. and creating all kinds of crazy 
loops. Also it can be refreshing to get out of the 4/8/16 grid and use 
a bit of 3, 5, 6 or 7, and just experiment in general. That's really what 
this is all about. I think this groove module could help to create some 
really new sounds and music. That's also why I suggested the 
extended quantizing module some time ago. I see those two ideas as 
related, or complementary. The quantizer idea basically would offer 
more grids which can be used for the cv-output of a sequencer, 
while the groove-module would offer more and flexible grids which 
can be used for the clock input of a sequencer. 

You could say that the groove-module approach is better because 
you can tweak each value individually, and the tuning-module idea 
depends upon a template (the n-tet) with only 1 variable n (same 
function as the number of steps-switch in groove module). But on 
the other hand tweaking the individual value of each step in a tuning 
would require so many pots that this would probably become 
unpractical. Definitely if you would let n go up to 24 (although 
personally I wouldn't mind having that possibility at all). But then 
again you could refine the n grids and make them more usable with 
an editable scale-mask, which is actually quite necessary for higher 
values of n. 

It's just such a pity that a lot of people have no idea what's behind scales 
and tunings, although it is right at the core of all music. That keeps 
you from exploring and you end up with the same notes over and over 
again while there are so many more notes... :-))

> > The typical delay-range for the individual steps would be somewhere 
> > between +/- 5 and 200 ms, so in this aspect this idea would require 
> > more precision than the A-162, which has a (+/-?) trigger delay of 
> > up to 10 seconds, and which is not very precise in the 15 - 50 ms 
> > range, where a lot of groove is to be found. 
> It is technically very simple to add an switch and an alternative 
> capacitor to reduce the delay time range. Like the range switches of the 
> A140 envelopes.

Yes, I've been thinking about such a modification. That's how I got this 
idea in the first place. 

What would be the preferred method to change the delay-range of the 
A-162 so the level indicators of the pot would roughly translate to ms 
x 10 (level 1 10 ms, level 5 somewhere around 50ms etc.) ?? Do you 
happen to know?  

> PS:
>  > I bet you a crate of dutch beer
> Never, never, never bet for dutch beer with someone born and living in 
> Bavaria. ;-)

Ok.. I won't, I have far too much respect for German beer ;-)

Greetings

Anton